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    Stein_Thor
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    Hello all

    Been probably two years since I posted anything here for critics !!!

    so if you have time I would really like to hear what you think, if this music is up to standards? If you think it´s ok and know of any libraries that use this kind of music I would be really glad if you could private msg me some names.

    I would also like to hear what can be done better. I can handle it 🙂

    Thanks
    Stein

    #29225 Reply
    BEATSLINGER
    Participant

    Thanks for sharing Stein. I am not sure what to say.. Technically they are fine. I would say though the mixes lack that “Bottom End, and warmth “thing” that shakes a theater””..

    No offense, but I am looking forward to someone “Really breaking this movie/film trailer music thing wide open with a brand new sound!” Currently it seems to be a bit “too uniform/cookie-cutter” for my tastes..

    I would say this to everyone.. Get out to the Conferences, Seminars, and Conventions to meet the people. The current impersonal way of sending material/links by email, really only works if you are doing “Something Earth-shatteringly different”.. Meet people, build a rapport, and see what your peers are up to!

    #29226 Reply
    Stein_Thor
    Participant

    Thank you,
    I´m actually not hoping to be the next big thing but only get on pair with what is being used. Being a classical musician and since I don´t listen to any “new” music I might be quite outdated, and more so since usually in this business you seem to get requests for your music to sound like this and that.

    Therefore I tend to follow now that sounds like this and that unfortunately.

    Also being in Iceland I don´t jump in a car and go anywhere :), there is nothing going on here with conferences etc, etc, need to go to the US probably for that.

    But thanks for the help, apreciate it.

    #29227 Reply
    BEATSLINGER
    Participant

    Good morning Stein. Being that you are a classically trained musician; I would say “Do the music that is really in your heart!! Don’t worry about what you think will work, or what they are looking for. Do the music that is really inside of YOU!!”

    Good music is NEVER outdated!

    Just felt like you were playing WAY too safe..

    #29229 Reply
    Abby
    Guest

    just my two cents.. I think Beatslinger has great advice, I’m a classically trained musician like you, and it is hard to ‘get out of the box’… and obviously the networking is going to be difficult with your location, but I would like to share one thing I have found helpful.

    Recently I’ve been going to the websites of what are considered by most here to be the ‘high-end’, ‘top’, ‘hard to get into’ libraries like Megatrax and listening to the tracks that are in the same genre of what I think are similar to what I write in. Comparing myself to these composers not only humbling and inspiring, but I can hear how their tracks are DIFFERENT from what you normally find. Odd meters, unexpected harmonies, etc. So far it’s been really helping me…

    #29230 Reply
    Stein_Thor
    Participant

    Thank you Abby

    I´ve tried to do that, and will keep at it.

    I have usually got the complains that my music was too complicated etc, too much melodic material, etc, so maybe I need to take a step back again.

    #29231 Reply
    Stein_Thor
    Participant

    And beatslinger, thank you too, maybe it´s true that I´m imitating too much,,, just trying to get a lot of material out there. I´m not trying for high end at the moment, just to get things rolling. I´m hearing a lot of crap being used and I guess thats the market I´m trying for at the moment.

    #29232 Reply
    LAwriter
    Participant

    And beatslinger, thank you too, maybe it´s true that I´m imitating too much,,, just trying to get a lot of material out there. I´m not trying for high end at the moment, just to get things rolling. I´m hearing a lot of crap being used and I guess thats the market I´m trying for at the moment.

    hi Stein –

    Some thoughts. I would NEVER tell anyone to aim towards marketing into the “crap that’s being used” market. That’s a losing strategy before you ever write a note. You need to be the best you can be.

    Some thoughts on your music since you asked :

    – you need better sounds. The sounds you are using sound dated. You’re competing against real orchestras and the best sample libraries out there. Anything less sounds fake and amaturish.

    – you need to work on your orchestration techniques. These sound like unfinished sketches to me. I hear none of the normal contrapuntal orchestra techniques being used that I am used to hearing in great music / recordings. Again, it sounds unfinished and/or amaturish. I want to hear more textural complexity. Orchestra music can sometimes sound deceptively simple, but if you study the contrapuntal lines, the doublings, the counter rhythms, etc. you will find even the simplest of pieces belie their complex underpinnings.

    – On the bright side, I didn’t immediately think “imitative” when I heard your music like I often do with people who don’t really have any unique ideas of their own. I think the music itself is pretty strong, but it could definitely be made better.

    – you need better production technique and mixing skills IMO. The midi programming leaves something to be desired in the imitation of real instruments. The mixing needs to be top notch to compete in a market that is getting better every month.

    good luck!

    -=LAWriter=-

    PS – FYI,I think the word you were looking for is “critique” not “critic”.

    #29233 Reply
    Stein_Thor
    Participant

    Thank you… I needed to hear that,,,

    I´m actually using ok libraries, not dated, so I must be using them wrong. And thats a tough pill to swallow after a few years of training in using these things.

    Think it´s time I take a step back, too much time going into this and money, will concentrate on other projects 🙂 and leave the library business.

    thank you for pulling me back to reality my friend

    Stein

    #29234 Reply
    LAwriter
    Participant

    Think it´s time I take a step back, too much time going into this and money, will concentrate on other projects ? and leave the library business.

    thank you for pulling me back to reality my friend

    Oh dear!!! That was not my intent. I think your music has potential, but I think it needs work to be all that it can be. I suppose if that turns you off, maybe you should do something else, but IMO, nothing great ever comes easy. I would encourage you to keep at it. Maybe have someone else mix your music or ??? Best of luck with whatever course you take.

    -=LAWriter=-

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