- October 16, 2019 at 4:58 am #33454
Just wondering if anyone has any experience with either Doug Diamond (musicopps.com) or Alexander Johnston (CMI Group). Both seem to rely on Broadjam and Music X-Ray a lot to find their music. I have been selected by both on multiple occasions for pitching some of my songs. However last time I sent them bitly links to track if they were being used as I had my suspicions. 6 weeks later and neither of my links have been clicked once by either of these guys.
Anyone have any experience here?
Thanks a lot guys 🙂October 16, 2019 at 12:31 pm #33461tobytuneParticipant
I used Broadjam for many years. Spent a lot of money on submissions and was selected many times. NOTHING ever came from that. And I hate the fact that you never knew who you were sending the music to. Some companies like PMG use Broadjam and Music Xray as their main income producer! Check out my review of PMG in the library listings.
What I don’t understand that, if music supervisors are looking for specific tunes and people like Diamond and others want to get music to these guys, there are lots of outlets for them to explore on their own to get music to the people looking for them. That’s their job, isn’t it? So why do they charge money for people to send them possible selections? Hmm, to make money of course for themselves!!!October 17, 2019 at 3:45 am #33465
Yeah, I tend to agree. It’s all a bit dodgy. It’s hard to get selected in the first place and now I see for sure that even when you do get selected, they aren’t even clicking the links themselves never mind pitching them to other people!October 17, 2019 at 3:48 am #33466
I feel like sending these guys follow up mails and asking why they haven’t even used the links I sent them and how are they possibly pitching my songs without doing this 🙂October 17, 2019 at 10:27 am #33467BEATSLINGERParticipant
I guess this whole thing is all about “Perspective”.
I’m at a “Vantage Point” to where EVERYTHING can be checked for “Accuracy & Authenticity” within a couple of minutes.
To be honest, there are a couple of these services that DO get results; but now that I can see “The Playing-field Clearly”. It’s in “Really Poor Taste” when I see a lot of them advertising like “they are elite, selective, and/or discerning; when in actuality they are starving and pitiful”.October 17, 2019 at 10:53 am #33468AdviceParticipant
I’d stay away from these folks. One red flag for me is when the service (such as X-Ray) splits the submission frees with the listing client. Total conflict of interest. I don’t know anything about CMI but any service that relies on submissions through X-Ray is majorly suspect to me. BJ also shares submission fees, BTW. There ARE some honest services though YMMV. Don’t ask me for names, because I won’t get into that.May 7, 2021 at 10:45 am #37878Doug DiamondParticipant
Hi all, I was just made aware of this post. [Note from moderator: Please contact Doug directly about issues with Music Xray and why he is no longer working with them.]
As for legitimacy, please have a look at our Success Stories page on our site and feel free to contact any artists on there and ask them about me or Music Opps, Broadjam, etc. https://www.musicopps.com/search/label/Success%20Stories
We charge for submissions because it’s the ONLY way we have to generate income for the work we do. We do NOT keep any of your publishing, none of your backend/PRO, and none of your sync fees (if applicable, which they would not be in a radio situation). If we were to get you a $1000 sync deal, your fee to us would still be……………$15. That’s not a good deal? Tell me how to do it differently.
We have a great working relationship with Broadjam and are continuously placing their artists in different licensing opportunities from music libraries, to satellite radio spins, to retail rotation, to Sports TV, video games, you name it.
If anyone has any doubts, please contact me.May 18, 2021 at 7:10 am #37988domahidimusicParticipant
$15 x 100 people = $1500 not a bad deal isn’t it???
Retaining a portion of the sync fee would be the right thing to do rather then work as you do.
Paying for opportunities is the worst thing that an artist can do….
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And should be restored the artist/composition value on not asking upfront fees that are an insult to an artist who has already invested a lot to create the composition/audio material.May 18, 2021 at 7:26 am #37990Art MunsonKeymaster
Folks, accusing someone of a scam or a ripoff is just conjecture with no proof. The simple question is if someone wants to pay for submissions. It’s up to the individual composer if they want to take that route. Earlier on in my career of writing production production I took that path a few times. There was one instance that it was wildly successful and our music was placed on a number of major network shows. We still have a good relationship with that library to this day. Many other times, though, paying for submissions turned into nothing. So, it’s a choice and nothing more.May 18, 2021 at 7:56 am #37991Doug DiamondParticipant
Thanks Art, I agree. There are bad apples out there, but ALL of us are not bad. This is our chosen business model so that artists can retain MORE of their hard-earned money (100% of all of it) – and only being out a few bucks to submit to a REAL opportunity where their songs are pitched and considered (if applicable to the opportunity) is a good deal for all involved. Can you as an artist do that on your own? Not usually. We have the connections. You, as an artist/songwriter may not…
The $15 is a binding contract between the submitter and us so that we HAVE to listen and consider it. We make no guarantees on pitching or placements, but… we do GUARANTEE that each song will be listened to and considered. If you send your stuff somewhere for free, do you have that guarantee that ANYONE will even listen to it? Of course not. And they usually don’t…
We encourage the people who have doubts about what we do (we can’t be held accountable for all bad apples, which this person seems to want us to do) – we ask folks to reach out to the artists themselves who are on our Success Stories page and talk to them. Find out what their experience was like. Is that so hard?
People who make blanket statements like he has obviously had a bad experience and for that, that is too bad… however, we’re not ALL bad and I personally have placed hundreds of songs in different sync licensing and supervision opportunities.
Bottom line: If you’ve had trouble placing your stuff, maybe instead of blaming others, you should look a the quality of your own stuff and see what is getting the placements (hence, the reason for our Success Stories page). Yes, there are some scams out there, however my company isn’t one of them. I urge you to do a little research on your own.
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