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  • #33862 Reply
    Advice
    Participant

    Back to the subject at hand, on this thread I think boinkeee2000 said it best regarding paid
    “how to” classes.

    #33863 Reply
    BEATSLINGER
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    Actually, the easiest way to “get going, and make far less mistakes” is over to your right of your screen. (In Red) under “Hot Links”, you will see the “Access Music Library” section. Start from “The Numbers, and work all the way thru to Z”.

    I did it by taking it in sections, and reading EVERY Posting in each thread. Pay VERY close attention to the postings that happened between “Around” 2009/2010 thru to 2015/2016. There is a LOT of Honesty in them!!

    When I was looking at potential Libraries, and would see something on the net/web. I would cross-reference it against the reviews it got here (Once again, paying close attention to comments that were made before 2016)

    Also, now that you are a member, you will easily be able to come to know who are “The Lifer’s”; and will see that they (although some post a lot less frequently now) drop great pearls of wisdom, and tried & proven experience.

    Good Luck!

    #33864 Reply
    CMM2020
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    Thank you Beat. I shall take your advice. I briefly glanced at a couple so far. Curious…was there some sort of shake up or big event that happened during the period you mentioned/

    #33865 Reply
    BEATSLINGER
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    Thank you Beat. I shall take your advice. I briefly glanced at a couple so far. Curious…was there some sort of shake up or big event that happened during the period you mentioned/

    Just being honest. It’s the same thing that is happening to the world as a “whole”. People have become a LOT more selfish & entitled; and when things were/are “more plentiful” people “tend” to be more generous with their information.

    There are a lot of people that are here on this forum that are earning a living in this business; are now more seasoned, and have their relationships already in place. So, they are able to give really good info from a “this has been working for me, take it and adapt to suit your needs” perspective.

    Also, one of the main problems with the subscription services is (and you will soon see this is where MLR will help you to excel!!) They have the “Majority” Bottle-necking at the same exact area. So, for some it might seem VERY congested; but for others that have gotten past it? “It’s literally an Open Road!!”

    #33866 Reply
    CMM2020
    Participant

    Ahhh, I see. Good explanation. Thank you.

    #33868 Reply
    DavidM
    Participant

    That’s a useful tip Beatslinger – thanks. The only thing I would say is that if the industry is changing so rapidly, are the threads, a considerable number of which date back 9 years, going to offer any insight?

    #33869 Reply
    Advice
    Participant

    It’s important to remember that not everyone has the same goals/interests/targets and/or already has the skill to make marketable music for Film/TV. (Yea, I know “marketable” can be grey)
    Market-wise: RF libraries, Broadcast libraries, scoring for film, etc.
    Skill-wise: composition, sounds, productions, vocals, lyrics, etc, etc, etc (not limited to)
    Sometimes I see a lot of painting everything with a broad brush here.

    We know that success depends on 2 facets: (1) The music (2) The marketing. Studying libraries and sending submissions is good but there are those who also need to work on the music end. I meet people getting into this who don’t know what a cue is, how to make virtual sounds realistic, song/cue structure, universal lyrics, and so on.
    At times, I see too much focus on #2 (Well this *is* Music Library Report) with the assumption that the person already has #1 down. This is especially true from people who already have some or a lot of success- they lose sight of what’s it like to be at that level.

    For people who are making marketable (again, grey I know!) music, researching libraries with a resource like MLR is great and this is a great resource. For those at entry level on the music side, the forum here has some info but by the nature of this site, probably not enough. That’s not a criticism of MLR at all which focuses on the characteristics of libraries.

    So, although I don’t love paid classes, if they do the job for the initial push-start, OK. But also, for those who need it, forums, on-line research, Facebook groups, in-person networking (conventions, etc.), and even that mode of transportation company we don’t talk about it, can be invaluable. Not saying the 2 facets are mutually exclusive and some/all can’t be done in parallel.

    So, in summary, questions here are sometimes answered with a lot of assumptions and the broad brush approach doesn’t take into account how what works for one may not work for another and vice versa.

    Happy Holidays and Happy New Year to all! 😀

    #33872 Reply
    Advice
    Participant

    No offense to MLR, but it “seems” that the more recent posts have not been nearly as accurate. Seems to be a LOT more Spoiled Brat Mentality lately; and Libraries have been getting some really bad reviews (That don’t deserve them) due to people being disgruntled about not being accepted.

    I think that was MUCH worse when MLR first started (Been here since the start, maybe you have been too) and has actually quieted down a lot more recently. It’s one reason why I hate the ratings and wish that would be removed from the site. People give high ratings to libraries that accept their tracks, no matter how good or bad the tracks are. Highly selective libraries, usually the ones you want to strive to get into, get low ratings because people don’t like being rejected.

    #33873 Reply
    BEATSLINGER
    Participant

    So, in summary, questions here are sometimes answered with a lot of assumptions and the broad brush approach doesn’t take into account how what works for one may not work for another and vice versa.

    Here, you want some “Honesty”?

    The reason for “The Broad Strokes” is because unfortunately we are living in a day and time where companies would rather “Troll the forums doing damage control, and harass its patrons; rather than actually doing good business”.

    #33874 Reply
    Advice
    Participant

    The reason for “The Broad Strokes” is because unfortunately we are living in a day and time where companies would rather “Troll the forums doing damage control, and harass the patrons; rather than actually doing good business”.

    By companies, you mean the libraries? I think it’s off the point I’m making about different types of music, different types of markets, and how different strategies work for different people. It’s off topic with edge of an ax to grind with music libraries. I’m not even sure how my “broad strokes” comment went this direction.

    I see very little of libraries trolling the forum and harassing patrons. In fact I can’t recall any harassment. I’ve seen libraries come on to defend themselves, sometimes rightly so, sometimes not so much. There are way more posts by people critiquing and sometimes beating up on libraries. And BTW, I’ve also seen tons of posts giving libraries bad press they don’t at all deserve.

    All I’m saying is when someone give advice on how someone else could succeed, it’s important to know more about where they are musically, what kind of music they make or want to make, what their goals are. what they’ve already done, and so on. I wouldn’t tell a newbie who just got his/her first DAW and a mic to go out and get a music attorney (exaggerated on purpose). What I’d say to someone writing vocal songs is much different than what I’d say to someone cranking out instrumental cues for reality TV.

    Isn’t this pretty simple? Anyway, Happy Holidays. 😀 (Last post on this thread for me so it can get back on track about courses. Arguing never has a happy ending on forum threads)

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