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    daveydad
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    Hi all. I joined BMI a while back as a songwriter and also created a fictitious publisher account. Is there any need for me to keep my publisher account if most/all of my music is being used by libraries where they become the publisher? Thanks.

    #16321 Reply
    MichaelL
    Participant

    Hi Dave,

    There is no reason to not have your own publishing entity, if you already set it up (otherwise you can just assign the publishers share to yourself).

    Are you putting most of your cues into non-exclusive libraries, including RF? Every once in a while, RF libraries do place music for broadcast. Assuming that you didn’t assign publishing admin to the RF library, you would be entitled to both the the writers and publishers shares.

    The second answer to your question, might depend upon your business structure, whether you are a sole proprietor, LLC or corporation, and how you elect to handle income and expenses.

    _Michael

    #16322 Reply
    daveydad
    Participant

    Hmm, ok. I’m sole proprietor. I’ve been registering my more recent pieces as 200% writer and forgetting the publisher thing. I mostly do non-exclusive and some RF but do have about 18 tracks exclusively with one library. Some of the tracks that are with NE libraries have been retitled and then they become the publisher. Thanks for the input!

    #16324 Reply
    MichaelL
    Participant

    Some of the tracks that are with NE libraries have been retitled and then they become the publisher.

    They become the publisher of the retitled cue. You can still be the publisher of the original title.

    I mostly do non-exclusive and some RF

    Most RF is non-exclusive.

    #16326 Reply
    Steve
    Guest

    I’ve been registering my more recent pieces as 200% writer and forgetting the publisher thing.

    How does a writer register 200% of a track?

    #16327 Reply
    Art Munson
    Keymaster

    How does a writer register 200% of a track?

    It’s just how BMI works. If you register a cue as both writer and publisher (no library or other publisher involved), the writer’s share is %100 and the publisher’s share is %100 which equals %200 total.

    #16328 Reply
    Art Munson
    Keymaster

    I love that BMI doesn’t require a publisher’s account for simple registrations on direct placements.

    #16329 Reply
    Advice
    Participant

    I love that BMI doesn’t require a publisher’s account for simple registrations on direct placements.

    Yes, with ASCAP if you want to collect the publisher’s share on your own, you must set up a publishing entity.

    #16330 Reply
    MichaelL
    Participant

    I love that BMI doesn’t require a publisher’s account for simple registrations on direct placements.

    In my case, it’s not simple. I publish another writer’s works and other publishing companies are involved, as well.

    Yes, with ASCAP if you want to collect the publisher’s share on your own, you must set up a publishing entity.

    My first publishing company was with ASCAP. Then, I moved everything to BMI. As I recall, it was pretty cheap to set up an ASCAP publishing company. BMI charges $275 per entity.

    #16331 Reply
    Art Munson
    Keymaster

    My first publishing company was with ASCAP. Then, I moved everything to BMI. As I recall, it was pretty cheap to set up an ASCAP publishing company. BMI charges $275 per entity.

    Another aspect of what I like about BMI. They treat publishers as publishers but they don’t treat writers who do their own administration the same. If I were monetizing the work of others I wouldn’t have any problem paying for a publishing entity but I’m very glad to avoid that when I’m just looking out for myself.

    I really like the way that BMI approaches this. To me it’s fair and equitable.

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