Sign a contract after the album is released???

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  • #26017 Reply

    josebaudrand
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    Hi
    I finished an album for a library
    And the said me that they sign the contracts AFTER the album is released…cause they had bad experiences signing the before the release cause sometimes titles where wrong
    So they had to make them again

    Sound very weird to me
    Cause I have never sign a contract after the release
    Actually they are taking more risk than me
    Cause if anything bad happens and I dont sign the contract
    They would be selling unauthorize material!

    Anybody with a good or bad experience with this kind of policy?
    Thanks

    #26019 Reply

    Art Munson
    Keymaster

    bump

    #26020 Reply

    josebaudrand
    Participant

    Hi art
    Ehat do you mean by saying
    Bump?

    Best

    #26021 Reply

    Art Munson
    Keymaster

    What do you mean by saying
    Bump?

    Pushes topic to the top. Better chance of response.

    #26022 Reply

    woodsdenis
    Participant

    Its digital release, not a physical one I assume. The question is how long after delivery are they going to release it ?

    #26023 Reply

    josebaudrand
    Participant

    Thanks woodsdenis
    I have all ready gave them the master tracks
    And they say me that just few days after the release they send the contract

    They have al ready send me a draft of the contract that says that also phisical copies could be released
    I told them about some changes of the draft that i would need (the price of the upfront fee)

    But thats is all the information i have

    Looks wierd to sign a contract a few days after the release
    The contracts are made to be aware and safe of future issues
    ….

    Art, i dont know how to push the topic to the top!

    #26024 Reply

    woodsdenis
    Participant

    I would have thought it is more normal to have contracts signed before release, but if its only a few days difference IDK. I am not a lawyer, however if MichaelL wants to comment on this one.

    #26025 Reply

    josebaudrand
    Participant

    Yes, for sure the common way is to sign before the release!
    For 10 years…i had make it this way and never had a problem

    You sign
    They pay
    They release

    #26026 Reply

    MichaelL
    Participant

    Normally, you would not begin work in the absence of a contract.

    Have you already been paid?

    At the moment, you are worrying about something that may, or may not, be a problem.

    #26027 Reply

    Jose Baudrand

    Thanks Michael

    I start working with out signing anything…
    Just emails where the agreement was writed..

    I finished the work
    I send the master tracks
    And I havnt being paid yet
    (Not cause they are late, just cause I finished yesterday)

    So, I think if the policy of the company
    Is to sign the contract after release the album (cause they say that manu times the titles of the tracks or albums are wrong…)
    I should be paid before the release

    And in that case, there would be not a huge problem for me to do it that way

    What do you think about offering that?

    Sign the contract after the release BUT be paid before the release…

    Thanks Michael!

    #26029 Reply

    MichaelL
    Participant

    You should have been paid on delivery of the music or on final approval of the music.

    The concern that I have is that without a contract there’s still an opportunity for them to reject your tracks (rather than ask for modifications) and to not pay you, to drag out paying you because you’ve already delivered, or to somehow change the terms in the final agreement.

    I have signed contracts after delivery when the titles were finalized, BUT I was paid in advance. Under that circumstance, I was under obligation to deliver. Here, it’s reversed. You’ve delivered and the library should be under obligation to pay you. Without a contract, however, it’s just a matter of trust.

    If they’ve been around a long time and have a solid reputation this could just be an idiosyncrasy in their procedure.

    Good luck.

    #26037 Reply

    josebaudrand
    Participant

    Thanks Michael

    They have just told me that they are gonna pay me in 10 days
    They have respond me every email and they are in this web page
    I trust in them

    I guess they do some things under their own policys

    Thanks for everything
    I will inform in this post how is the end of the story

    Best

    #26578 Reply

    Gael MacGregor

    Jose, I suggest that in the future:

    1. Get a signed deal memo that spells out the bare bones of what you will provide, how much you will be paid, and timetables.

    2. Make sure the contract spells put your payment schedule; my suggestion is 50% upon signing the contract (which should be done before one note of music is composed, and 50% upon delivery. If writing a work-for-hire film score it is usually 50% up front, 25% upon delivery of tracks, and 25% upon delivery of all info necessary for the music supervisor to complete the cue sheets.

    3. DO NOT DELIVER the music without finalized, signed, fully executed contracts AND final monies in hand.

    I’ve been doing this too long to proceed with anything without written contract and down payment in hand.

    All the best,
    Gael

    #26579 Reply

    Gael MacGregor

    Sorry for the squirrely autocorrects. I couldn’t get back into the post to edit them. ?

    #26580 Reply

    Art Munson
    Keymaster

    Fixed it for you Gael. Editing is good for 60 minutes but you have to be logged in.

    Thanks for responding!

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