- July 9, 2019 at 8:34 pm #32604YoungrichyrichGuest
Nothing is appealing to everybody – ask our 70+ musicians if it’s appealing.
We’re going to put out 100 albums this year with big libraries lol $$July 9, 2019 at 9:15 pm #32605BEATSLINGERParticipant
I was positive and you give me hate instead of curiosity about how I was able to do what I do. I have a wealth of knowledge as an industry titan and am willing to share some of it.
You know something, Young Mr.Rich
You are absolutely right. I will say that because of my many years in both the record side of this “business”, and the production music side; that it has made me a bit cynical.
I am getting the “impression” that you are quite young, or at least much younger than I. So, if I might let me throw a few things out there..
There actually ARE a few “Titans” that are members of this forum, and “they drop Jewels/nuggets of insight, wisdom, and incredible candor & testimony!”
Hang out, learn the playing-field, and take it in. I am willing to bet that this same time next year you will have made strides you didn’t think in your wildest dreams.
No-one is actually “hating” on you, many of us here are quite successful. Your story just seems a bit “far-fetched”, and to be honest (IMO) not very lucrative, or worth the time.
I do wish you all the best, and I hope that everything you want out of this industry comes to you!July 9, 2019 at 10:18 pm #32608UpFromTheSkiesParticipant
Lost me at calling yourself a “titan.”July 9, 2019 at 11:44 pm #32610YoungrichyrichGuest
Thank you for your response
What do you mean “not very lucrative or worth the time”? Lucrative and worth the time to who? I work an hour a day making $200k+/year – seems lucrative and worth the time to meJuly 10, 2019 at 4:07 am #32611YoungrichyrichGuest
Responding to @music1234 who said
Finally, certainly you have overhead running such an operation? So while your sales may be 250K this year from the 70 writers/ 1000 track catalog, I am sure you had to spend a good chunk of that $ running a web site and engaging in other marketing and distribution costs. This type of “part time side hustle” where you are only working 1 hour a day seems to not really add up.
$200-250k profit. We’ll bring in approx $500-600k in revenue in 2019.
I don’t have any website or “distribution costs” (not sure what that is).
95% (probably even more) of the business expenses are on labor
I do work an hour a day. I also have the option to delegate it and work 10-15 min/day (hopefully less)
Does this pass your test? plzzz believe meJuly 10, 2019 at 6:43 am #32614Music1234Participant
Hey Youngrich, who am I to not believe you? Congrats on a winning strategy. I wish I knew your short cuts because for me, I have been grinding away at this for 2 1/2 decades and I have only earned through good old fashion hard work.
I actually believe anything is possible. Let’s all tone down the pessimism and doubt and let this discussion continue because in this business anything is possible and clearly all of us have seen stranger things happen where suddenly a lot of money comes falling down out of no where (Don’t we all love those moments!)
By “distribution costs” – I am talking about the time involved in either:
A. Self Uploading music tracks to stock sites (direct license models) or
B. Submitting music to publishers who then distribute to multiple overseas publishers and register all titles at PRO’s.
It takes me and others a lot of time to do those tasks and yes I too at times employ people to handle that admin work for me and no I am not using free interns to do those tasks. You personally may work 1 hour a day on your model, but still just managing the inflow of music from 70 writers takes time so clearly you have an employee who is working for you. Or perhaps you do not?
I have one final question: if you don’t own a library, do you just distribute the music of 70 writers to another Library/ Publisher?July 10, 2019 at 8:23 am #32616BEATSLINGERParticipant
What do you mean “not very lucrative or worth the time”?
For me, it means that the break-down/amount of money that is income from each track does not justify the time and energy for me.
I am in Libraries where the “Non-Recoupable” upfront monies are in the 4 digits; with 50/50 splits on everything. So, averaging 250.00 a track does not work for me personally.
Also, My “Titan” Pal. You are saying that you have 70+ writers, with no website, no distribution costs, and basically just labor costs? I would love to know how you “advertised” for these 70+ writers to even let them know you exist. Also, You mentioned “Automated Systems”. Please help me to understand that, and how that would not be a website; or something that would have maintenance fees attached to it.
I hope you don’t say You’re a “Vendor” to any of the Majors.July 10, 2019 at 9:11 am #32617Art MunsonKeymaster
Hey Youngrich, who am I to not believe you? Congrats on a winning strategy.
This is really nothing new but Youngrichyrich’s original assertion was that in 6 years he alone was making $250k a year. The story has since morphed into “70 writers”, 1000 tracks a year and working an hour a day.
Go back to the 70s and it was Mike Post, in the 80s Hans Zimmer. Other lesser known composers have done something similar, even to this day.
My problem with Youngrichyrich is the constantly evolving story, wild assertions and no desire to provide any evidence to support his claims.
In this era of Fake News I think healthy skepticism is in order!
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