Tax Forms – TIN – Taxpayer Identification Number


Questions have come up on on tax forms and obtaining a U.S. Taxpayer Identification Number or TIN if you live outside of the U.S. but working with a U.S. based company. I have moved the comments to here.

38 Replies to “Tax Forms – TIN – Taxpayer Identification Number”

  1. Filling out the W-7 now myself (UK), and I’m all clear on the certified copy, generally filling it out, but for the exceptions, what do I choose and what documentation do I send?

    As said in the thread already, I guess I tick “a” (Nonresident alien required to get ITIN to claim tax treaty benefit.) then tick “h” and write “Exception 1(d)” But what do I documents can I send in? Where can I get a document stating I need an ITIN?

    Any help would be great!

    And through my rampant googling of w7s, w-8bens and ITINs, I came across this:
    “Am I required to provide a U.S. tax identification number under line 6? I’m not a U.S. citizen or resident.”
    “Not any longer! In order to claim tax treaty benefits, however, a tax identification number must still be provided on form W-8BEN. This may be the tax ID issued to you by your native country if there is a tax treaty in effect between our two countries. A tax id allows the IRS to establish both the identity and residency of foreign entities and nationals. We are required to withhold tax at the 30% rate if this information is not provided.”

    Different circumstances, but do I need to get an ITIN or can I just go w8-ben?

    1. If you don’t get the ITIN then they will withhold 30% of your earnings.

      The best thing to do is to call IRS on the phone and get EIN instead of ITIN.It doesn’t demand all the notarized docs and hassle that ITIN demands and other artists said they got their EIN in about 10 minutes over the phone.

      I didn’t know that when i had to get an ITIN (2.5 years ago) and i had to deal with all the ITIN paperwork for 2 days,send it by mail and then wait 8-10 weeks to get my ITIN mailed to me!
      I had to get my ID,birth certification,driver’s license notarized and fill in correctly the W7 form (in case you don’t get it right you’ll need to send it again – that’s another 4-6 weeks!).

      I was talking to a fellow artist from Estonia and he just got his EIN last month,over the phone.
      I’ve also read in these forums of other artists getting an EIN instead of ITIN.It seems they both have the same effect.

      Do some google research though to get some more info about it.

        1. uk resident but having worked in the USA i managed to get a SSN which has voided my need to go through the ITTN number thing!

      1. Called and got my EIN. Like you said, 10 mins. Super easy, and thankfully the timezones worked quite nicely, as they were just starting their day, so I didn’t have to wait on the phone at all.

        Thanks for the help!

        1. Glad you avoided all the ITIN hassle (wish i knew it back then!).
          Now only thing left is fill in the EIN info in your W8-BEN form and you’re ready to go ๐Ÿ˜‰

  2. Hello,

    I’m just about to fill W7 form and found some info at the bottom of the page 3 in Instructions for Form W-7.
    There is written:
    “Submittal of original/certified copies of identifying documents for applicants using the combination of reason codes a and h is not required. Original documents and notarized copies will be accepted. The applicant
    will be required to submit original documents or certified copies if
    a U.S. tax return is being submitted with the ITIN request.”

    So I don’t need to send them my passport or certified copy if I don’t want any U.S. tax return right?

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