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| URL: | http://www.abstractsound.com | |
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| Twitter: | @abstract99 | |
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| Accepting Submissions: | No | |
| Submit Online: | Yes | |
| Submit By Mail: | No | |
| Submissions Reviewed: | Yes | |
| Types Accepted: | Instrumentals | |
| Charge For Submissions: | No | |
| Up Front Money: | No | |
| Royalty Free: (non-broadcast use) |
No | |
| Exclusivity: (Exclusive, Non, Semi) (Semi = Free to place on own but not with another library) |
Non-Exclusive | |
| Re-Title: | Yes | |
| Set Own Price: | No | |
| Contract Length: | None | |
| Payment Schedule: | Quarterly | |
| License Fee Split: (writer/library) |
35/65 | |
| PRO Split Based on 100%: (writer/library writer/library/publisher or writer) |
75/25 | |
| Requires Licensee To File Cue Sheet: | Yes | |
| Pays On Blanket License: | ||
| YouTube Content ID: | ||
| Active Site: | No | |
| Offers Subscriptions To Clients: | ||
| Notes: | (Library collects 100% of publisher's share, then sends 25% of that to the writer) Audiotrove is their online presence http://www.audiotrove.com |
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Another one bites the dust!
Thanks Emmett. Off to R.I.P. for them.
Communication was great until I told him I don’t have time to do all of the edits your requesting. I told him in a polite way but still all communication on his end stopped.
I feel like saying…sorry…your library has no service record.. I don’t work for free.
Well I’m getting less and less enamored of Abstract Sound. Initially they were excited about getting my music and sent me a contract right away. Once I had some questions about the contract the conversation stopped. I’ve sent two or three e-mails with no reply. I’ve also offered them access to MLR to answer any questions and to clear up any issues, again, with no response.
One thing to watch out for. What they state on their web site about Blanket Licenses is NOT what is in their contract.
Alarms go off in my lawyer brain when terms differ, AND when a party becomes silent if questioned about clauses in their contract.
It’s possible that things changed and that their website hasn’t caught up with their contract, or vice versa. But, they could tell you that instead of ignoring you.
I’ve e-mailed them about coming on here and clearing some of these issues up.
I actually heard from John Keaney this morning. I sent an email introducing myself and like a dummy I accidentally send a broader Soundclick link instead of my direct link. He did respond to let me know so I sent the correct link. The main point was he was interested instead of just saying bad link, oh well tough so I appreciated that. Hopefully, I’ll hear back on the music.Seemed to be a nice guy.
Pat, I’d be wary of them at this point.
Thanks Art and Michael. They haven’t gotten back to me yet but I’m definitely rethinking this based on this kind of feedback.
Not getting that warm fuzzy right now.
You might prod them to come over to MLR and answer our concerns. 😉
Did you guys ever decide to go with Audiotrove? I was thinking about requesting to submit.
Non-exclusive?? Not much info on these guys here or their site either for that matter.
Still waiting for answers on a couple of questions I have.
Art makes a good point. And I’m also still on the fence.
The info sheet they sent said Audiotrove will be “one of the first music libraries to target the digital advertising market.” That line made me assume they were mostly going for new media / Web placements. To be fair, when I mentioned that in my reply they said they are “aggressively going after both broadcast and digital”. And as I mentioned before, they seem to have big connections in the ad industry proper.
I’m torn about this one. I submitted and got an offer to send tracks. But retitling combined with a 35/65 split on sync fees feels like a tough, PumpAudio-esque pill to swallow. These guys definitely seem like pros, and they apparently have major connections in the ad industry (founder is John Keaney, formerly of JWT New York). I’ve only submitted to maybe 40 libraries ever, but most deals I’ve seen have a better split on sync fees (almost always 50/50 for non-exclusive). I asked if it was possible to change the terms, they said no. Not really sure what to do here. What do y’all think?
Yeah, I like these guys too but am torn. They do give you 25% of the publishing income which many do not. My concern was what happens if they direct license to a network that does not have an agreement with the PROs.