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October 2, 2015 at 5:41 am #23028AlanParticipant
I’m planning to invest in this before the year is over (the Big Band).
Has anyone out there heard or experienced anything negative about this product?
Thanks!October 2, 2015 at 7:06 am #23031MichaelLParticipantI have Broadway Lites. It’s a great library. I got it on sale.
I haven’t felt compelled upgrade to the Broadway Big Band library.I recently bought Projects SAM’s “Swing” and was somewhat disappointed. It’s great for certain types of unison brass and sax lines, but if you want to do any serious big band writing with proper numbers of instruments and voices, you still need something like Broadway Big Band.
Can I ask why you’re thinking about BBB instead of Sample Modeling’s instruments? Are you looking to do “big band” music or trying for that Broadway “pit orchestra” sound?
Cheers,
MichaelOctober 2, 2015 at 8:47 am #23033AlanParticipantThanks for the reply MichaelL. I’m mostly interested in straight ahead big band and R&B horn stuff. I wasn’t familiar with the Sample Modeling products. Do you have them? I briefly checked them out and it looks promising and much more affordable. The demo’s I listened to were pretty wet, which concerns me.
I’ll dig into the site more later.
Thanks again.October 2, 2015 at 9:00 am #23034MichaelLParticipantHi, Alan!
SM horns and saxes have long been on my wish list.
AFIK, Sample Modeling stuff is recorded completely dry, like Peter Siedlaczek’s earlier libraries, and VSL.
If you’re a wind player (I’m not), using a wind controller can add amazing realism!
Cheers,
MichaelOctober 2, 2015 at 9:47 am #23039AlanParticipantThanks MichaelL. I just watched this:
I’m ordering SM Trumpets now
πOctober 2, 2015 at 10:27 am #23041AlanParticipantI just installed SM “The Trumpet 3”
wow…
I won’t be sleeping any time soon π
Thanks for the tip MichaelLOctober 2, 2015 at 10:50 am #23044Art MunsonKeymasterI just installed SM βThe Trumpet 3β
wowβ¦Quite a demo!
October 2, 2015 at 11:20 am #23045PolarSoundsParticipantStraight Ahead samples are also coming out with a jazz horns library and judging by the demos I’ve heard it would be great for big band. It should have been released May this year but are delayed though, so not sure when it will be available.
http://straightaheadsamples.com
Like Michael, I also got Swing! by project Sam and got a bit disappointed. Its not really flexable enough to do convincing big band pieces on its own, I can’t do it anyway. But it has a nice Fender jazz bass and a pedal steel guitar I have used a lot.
I have most of the Sample Modeling instruments and they have to be the most playable sampled instruments out there. They all sound great as solo instruments, but I haven’t been able to get them to sound as good in sections. I get some phasing problems when the instruments are playing unison. But I’m sure its user error cause the demos on their site sounds good.October 2, 2015 at 11:22 am #23046woodsdenisParticipantAren’t SM physically modelled , no actual samples ?
October 2, 2015 at 11:30 am #23047PolarSoundsParticipantThey use samples recorded in a anechoic chamber as a source for the physical modeling, I think. As the name implies π But there are no sampled legato or articulations.
October 2, 2015 at 12:05 pm #23048Mike MarinoParticipantSomeone said what i was gonna say. π
October 2, 2015 at 12:47 pm #23049MichaelLParticipantLike Michael, I also got Swing! by project Sam and got a bit disappointed. Its not really flexable enough to do convincing big band pieces on its own,
SWING is OK if you’re going to layer it. That adds one more touch of realism, especially if you add anything live over it.
But, you’re absolutely right. You cannot do a convincing Big Bang track with it.
Straight Ahead samples are also coming out with a jazz horns library and judging by the demos Iβve heard it would be great for big band. It should have been released May this year but are delayed though, so not sure when it will be available.
Got tired of waiting for that, which is why I bought SWING. The two libraries are like night and day. You can definitely so some serious arranging with the Straight Ahead brass. Live and learn.
October 2, 2015 at 12:52 pm #23050PolarSoundsParticipantGot tired of waiting for that, which is why I bought SWING. The two libraries are like night and day. You can definitely so some serious arranging with the Straight Ahead brass. Live and learn.
The exact same reason I bought Swing! And its by no means a useless library as it has many useful patches.
October 3, 2015 at 5:14 pm #23055AlanParticipantI’m still on my honeymoon with the SM Trumpet and I already cheated. I bought the saxes today π
I dropped in a 16 bar 5-way sax soli I was working on and it sounded great before I added any expression controllers. This should be a fun week!
October 4, 2015 at 12:09 am #23056PolarSoundsParticipantThe saxes are great! Did you get the Kontakt version or the SWAM version?
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