Tagged: PRO, registering, retitling
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August 7, 2020 at 2:48 am #35533bfdcsdParticipant
Contract indicates: Library can only use compositions under alternate “work titles.” Library registers retitled works and collects all income except writer performance royalty income. Writer shall administer compositions and collect income for uses and/or licenses by writer (copyright owner) under the original or any other titles.
Is this a complex way of saying that, if I would want that writer performance royalty income, I need to register the retitled name?
August 7, 2020 at 7:03 am #35534Art MunsonKeymasterIs this a complex way of saying that, if I would want that writer performance royalty income, I need to register the retitled name?
No it does not. You would still get your writer’s income from the retitled work as they will register that title with you as writer and they as publisher. They would only collect the publishing income.
You would/should register any other titles (not being used by other libraries) with you as writer and publisher.
At least that’s a typical deal unless you have made one of those horrible deals where the library wants a piece of the writing income. In that case they would register as publisher and co-writer with the alternate title.
August 7, 2020 at 8:08 am #35539ORPMParticipantWith fingerprinting it can create conflicts if you register the new title with your PRO. Mine (Gema) said I have to register it as alternative title on the same work and publishing rights are goner worldwide. I will not work with these retitlers.
August 7, 2020 at 8:14 am #35540Art MunsonKeymasterMine (Gema) said I have to register it as alternative title on the same work and publishing rights are goner worldwide.
Interesting, not a requirement with BMI, as far as I know.
I will not work with these retitlers.
All non-exclusive libraries re-title in some way. Mostly by appending a code of some sort. As an example Jingle Punks ads JP to the end of your title. “My Song” becomes “My Song-JP”.
August 7, 2020 at 8:44 am #35541ORPMParticipantOk so I wonder: if I go non exclusive with 5 retitlers and they all get 50% of my royalties as publishers on Ascap how is my PRO supposed to work this out? Is each getting 10% because he is 1/5 th ? I would have to register 5 versions of the same title with 5 publishers in case its the same track. But the fingerprinting will always see the same file…
August 7, 2020 at 9:03 am #35542bfdcsdParticipantThanks, Art (and everyone else…an interesting conversation, to be sure).
It makes sense that the performance royalties go where they’re supposed. The wording of the contract made it seem like I had to do something to make that happen. But it was a case of me reading a meaning into something that wasn’t there. That’s what lawyerese does to my brain.
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August 7, 2020 at 9:10 am #35543Art MunsonKeymasterOk so I wonder: if I go non exclusive with 5 retitlers and they all get 50% of my royalties as publishers on Ascap how is my PRO supposed to work this out?
It’s pulled from the cue sheet.
August 10, 2020 at 2:53 am #35578ORPMParticipantYes pulled from the cue sheet but my PRO will pass 40% to this new publisher even if he was NOT involved in the placement but I placed it…The publishing contract is worldwide, an absolute no go for me for NE.
August 10, 2020 at 8:35 am #35579Art MunsonKeymasterYes pulled from the cue sheet but my PRO will pass 40% to this new publisher even if he was NOT involved in the placement but I placed it
I guess I’m not understanding. If you placed it you would use your title that lists you as publisher. That’s they way I do it at BMI and have never had a problem in the 15 years I have been doing this.
August 10, 2020 at 11:01 am #35580LAwriterParticipantI guess I’m not understanding
Yeah, doesn’t make sense to me either Art….
August 10, 2020 at 1:58 pm #35582ORPMParticipantGema tells me I have to add the retitled name to the original name thus making the retitler my sole publisher for this track with 2 titles and this publisher (won’t say who) wants worldwide publishing rights. Makes sense now?
August 10, 2020 at 2:21 pm #35583Art MunsonKeymasterGema tells me I have to add the retitled name to the original name thus making the retitler my sole publisher for this track with 2 titles and this publisher (won’t say who) wants worldwide publishing rights. Makes sense now?
Ah, got it. Has to do with your PRO requirements. Don’t have that problem with BMI.
August 10, 2020 at 10:14 pm #35586ORPMParticipantThat is probably because BMI doesnt use fingerprint tracking? GEMA started last year.
August 11, 2020 at 7:06 am #35592Art MunsonKeymasterThat is probably because BMI doesnt use fingerprint tracking?
They do not for TV but they do for radio commercials and they use Numerator/Competitrack for TV commercials. I don’t know how Numerator tracks but lately my Numerator airings are very close to what Tunesat is detecting.
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