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February 18, 2020 at 11:35 am #34356mgv1Participant
Is it advisable to wait for the actual copyright number before using music in any way online? The wait is estimated at 3 months for an application with uploaded music to process. Thanks!
February 18, 2020 at 11:54 am #34358Art MunsonKeymasterIs it advisable to wait for the actual copyright number before using music in any way online?
No but this is not legal advice!
In reality, for the market we are in, copyrighting every piece of music is financially not feasible.
February 18, 2020 at 6:49 pm #34361MichaelLParticipantIn reality, for the market we are in, copyrighting every piece of music is financially not feasible.
Under the current fee schedule, you can register 10 unpublished works in a “Group Registration” for $55. That seems feasible.
Is it advisable to wait for the actual copyright number before using music in any way online?
The US Supreme Court recently held that for purposes of litigation registration has occurred when when the Copyright office takes the final step of issuing the registration, not when the application is submitted. The timing of registration and publication can have a serious impact on your ability to receive statutory damages and legal fees in the event that someone infringes on your work after publication and before the registration is final.
February 18, 2020 at 7:14 pm #34362Art MunsonKeymasterUnder the current fee schedule, you can register 10 unpublished works in a “Group Registration” for $55. That seems feasible.
Good point MichaelL but define “unpublished”? What happens after “published” and what is the definition for copyright’s sake? See, that’s what you get for being a lawyer. Ha!
February 18, 2020 at 8:04 pm #34363MichaelLParticipantdefine “unpublished”? What happens after “published” and what is the definition for copyright’s sake?
17 U.S. Code §101.
“Publication” is the distribution of copies or phonorecords of a work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental, lease, or lending. The offering to distribute copies or phonorecords to a group of persons for purposes of further distribution, public performance, or public display, constitutes publication. A public performance or display of a work does not of itself constitute publication.February 19, 2020 at 7:15 am #34366Art MunsonKeymasterThanks MichaelL!
February 19, 2020 at 10:06 am #34367mgv1ParticipantThanks everyone for your time on this. It just seems a bit frustrating to wait so long before being able to do anything with some good tunes.
February 21, 2020 at 7:39 am #34376LogikaParticipantMy understanding about group registration is that it could be.a problem if the destinations of the compositions comprising the group registration go to different entities, e.g. some pieces go to X library, some go to Y library, etc. Since they share the same copyright number, all the compositions in the group would really ‘belong’ to the new publisher/library when you may not want them to. Is there validation to this?
February 21, 2020 at 5:15 pm #34379MichaelLParticipantMy understanding about group registration is that it could be.a problem if the destinations of the compositions comprising the group registration go to different entities, e.g. some pieces go to X library, some go to Y library, etc. Since they share the same copyright number, all the compositions in the group would really ‘belong’ to the new publisher/library when you may not want them to. Is there validation to this?
What you are describing was true under the old system of registering “collections” of works. My understanding of the new group registrations for unpublished works, implemented last year, is that each work will have a unique registration number. There are, however, other requirements. For example, “To qualify for this option, all the works must be created by the same author or the same joint authors, and the author or joint authors must be named as the copyright claimant for each work.”
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