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  • #12920
    rwv123
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    While I follow the “go with the libraries who best represent the feel of a particular cue,” I also spread my songs around like a flask of schnapps at the prom. Now, I won’t harp on the issue of re-titling’s future, because it has been bored out…but I have a “what if” question.

    I’ve read everyone getting into a chicken fight over the whole thing, but from a composer standpoint…are we safe from the potential fallout? IF, and when, it all goes down (fingerprinting, no more re-titling, etc), then won’t it be up to the libraries to fight to hold on to cues? Won’t they be reaching to grab straws? If there is a “cancel any time” clause, won’t it just be a stream of “give me my tracks back, Jack!” composers requests to libraries?

    Will the end result be total collapse of the smaller libraries, who didn’t lawyer up and grabbed the fewest straws?

    #12925
    Art Munson
    Keymaster

    Personally I think it’s all “much ado about nothing” but there are many others who will violently disagree with me. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    #12926
    Desire_Inspires
    Participant

    I agree with Art (in a non-violent manner of course). I am steadily placing songs exclusively and non-exclusively.

    #12928
    MichaelL
    Participant

    With respect to exclusive works. It really depends on 1) what the contract with the library says, and 2) whether or not you transferred the copyright to the library.

    If the library cannot perform its side of the bargain, the contract should be void, in which case I would argue that you are no longer obligated to perform your side of the bargain, which is exclusivity.
    If you did not transfer your copyright (AND YOU SHOULD NOT) the library owns nothing. The music is yours.

    One caveat: it is possible that in the fine print of the contract, which many overly hungry composers won’t bother to read, it may say that the exclusive right to your music is assignable or transferable. In that case the library may try to “sell” your exclusive cues to another library.

    With respect to non-exclusive works, the library owns nothing.

    #12932
    More advice
    Guest

    Can we please stop talking about the E and NE looming “fall out”?

    It’s exactly what Art said “much ado about nothing”. I’d say 99.9 percent of the folks out there in our world of production music do not want to litigate, investigate, interrogate, and police what’s going on.
    This is why it appears as though AS looks the other way when they know some composers have their stuff retitled in other places. Is it worth their time to investigate the sea of 12 billion tracks on 30 different sites to hold those accountable? Probably not.

    What composers and libraries do want is satisfied customers, placements, license fees, and checks showing up at the door, in paypal, direct deposit, all of the above ideally.

    The litigation BS is for the super rock stars with well known songs who get cranky when a big brand rips them off and makes a national commercial. No one is concerned with everyone’s ukelele and U2-like didies providing a wallpapered background for TV shows and corporate videos,….and the occasional TV spot. That’s my 2 cents on the entire matter.

    #12934
    MichaelL
    Participant

    The OP didn’t ask anyone’s opinion on whether or not a collapse would happen. He asked what the legal ramifications are IF it does happen.
    I gave him the legal answer.

    #12935
    Art Munson
    Keymaster

    +1 More Advice!


    @MichaelL
    . I may have jumped on an unintended bandwagon but it was sure to go there. ๐Ÿ™‚

    #12937
    woodsdenis
    Participant

    One thing I do know is that when a lawyer answers a question, be sure to read exactly what they say or write. Its their job to be precise !! LOL

    #12938
    Desire_Inspires
    Participant

    The litigation BS is for the super rock stars with well known songs who get cranky when a big brand rips them off and makes a national commercial. No one is concerned with everyone’s ukelele and U2-like didies providing a wallpapered background for TV shows and corporate videos,….and the occasional TV spot. That’s my 2 cents on the entire matter.

    Agreed.

    #12946
    rwv123
    Participant

    Thanks for all the input….ukes and U2…that’s great. I’m definitely on the side of nobody is going to care about the smaller stuff. It really was sparked by my lawyer waving a fist at me and saying a particular opt-out any time contract was actually binding in ways more than I was originally led to believe.

    Agreed the argument is beaten. just wanted to clear what would be our end of it. Thanks to all thoughts and advice!

    #12947
    MichaelL
    Participant

    It really was sparked by my lawyer waving a fist at me and saying a particular opt-out any time contract was actually binding in ways more than I was originally led to believe.

    NO doubt a contract drafted by some sneaky snake in the grass lawyer…
    Damn lawyers!!!!! ๐Ÿ˜›

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