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    daveydad
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    Definitely seeing my streaming royalties ramping up little by little each quarter. And on his statement Netflix royalties appeared for the first time. 7 streams yielded $3.02!! 🙂

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    Dannyc
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    wow thats nice. good to hear daveydad.

    #32446 Reply

    MichaelL
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    You’re in the money! I had 42,000 streams on Hulu, which yielded $0.31.

    Oh, wait, I own the publishing on that one, so make that a total of $0.62. 😀

    #32447 Reply

    daveydad
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    Wow!! Yeah, I was surprised Netflix did that well. I made $21 with Hulu… but can’t even begin to count the number of streams….

    #32448 Reply

    Music1234
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    I pulled the calculator out. I singled out my best royalty line item royalty payment from the internet audiovisual section of my BMI statement to analyze it. BMI seems to be listing stream counts on statements which is pretty interesting.

    The reality of streaming royalties is pretty bleak:

    I had a :27 second cue on 1 episode of The Voice stream 1,691,000 times. The pay was $10 for those streams. This is 0.000000591 cents per stream on HULU.
    The exact same cue paid $70 for the broadcast performance on NBC.

    Amazon VOD – an NFL cue that paid $370 for 1 live tv performance on Fox for :25 secs of air time paid $8.35 for 2,113,904 streams

    0.00000395 cents per stream

    But check this out. I have been reading and also calculating streams on Spotify and what spotify pays…often .0004 cents per stream (on average). If HULU or AMAZON were paying similar rates 1,691,000 streams x .0004 cents would actually = $676!

    Future of streaming is not bright. Time for AMAZON, the most profitable company in the world, to pay the F up!

    #32449 Reply

    daveydad
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    Interesting and kind of sad…

    My highest streaming show on Hulu was 118,707 on a Cold Case Files episode paying $2.35. But that was also with a cue 2.35s long.

    With Amazon it was an episode of MTV’s Real World with 16,893 streaming paying only $0.56. That cue was 37s.

    My best payout this statement was from 41 episodes on Big Ten Network (sports): $123

    #32450 Reply

    Kubed
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    7 pages of Amazon VOD hits paid $19 while 5 pages of Hulu hits paid $107.
    Amazon is possibly the lowest paying streaming service.

    Another interesting thing is Facebook royalties.
    On the BMI statement i received yesterday,it said ‘Facebook 2015’ and i had 9 tracks yielding $4.96. What’s interesting is they only had 1 stream that paid from $0.09 to $1.40. Sounds more promising than Amazon anyway.

    #32452 Reply

    Atmos_Analog
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    I saw $4.01 from Hulu for 90457 streams of :48 of a song in a film. It received the “T” use code which I think is for “Theme” (correct me if I’m wrong) This was a song written for the soundtrack album and the song was used in a portion of the end credits.

    If this is the future, what is the winning strategy?

    Is there any way to verify these stream numbers?

    Atmos

    #32456 Reply

    Michael Nickolas
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    For what it’s worth it’s not any better at ASCAP. Our next statement isn’t until July, but from a past statement:
    Amazon,16,890 streams, 0:17 – $0.20
    Hulu, 123,612 streams, 0:08 – $0.41
    Netflix, streams not reported, 0:15 – $0.68
    Libraries need to collect decent sync fees for tracks placed into shows that will only be streamed and not broadcast. Back-end is an insult.

    #32479 Reply

    Frank

    hey guys, over which libraries you got this Netflix and Hulu stream placements? thx !

    #32482 Reply

    daveydad
    Participant

    Most came from MIBE, a few from Back End Music.

    #32484 Reply

    Adam

    Information from a contact :

    Because Spotify and Apple Music pay royalties through a pro rata business model – meaning that their revenue is all put into a pool and then proportionally divvied up among rights holders depending on their share of streams – there is no definitive per-stream rate.
    But according to Spotify’s company filings in years past, average per-stream payouts from the company are between $0.006 and $0.0084. Apple Music’s figures hover at about the same.
    “I’m always getting asked by both new and established artists how royalties and payouts work from the popular streaming platforms. Well, the easiest way to explain it is to simply break down the numbers.” – Brian Garrett, CEO Future Star Music Group.
    Here’s a little guide that you can use to help calculate what you’re owed.
    1 Stream on YouTube = $0.00069
    1 Stream on Spotify = $0.00437
    1 Stream on Apple Music = $0.00735
    1 Stream on Tidal = $0.01250
    1 Stream on Amazon Music = $0.00402
    1 Million Streams on YouTube = $690
    1 Million Streams on Spotify = $4,370
    1 Million Streams on Apple Music = $7,350
    1 Million Streams on Tidal = $12,500
    1 Million Streams on Amazon Music = $4,020
    150 streams = 1 Song Download ($0.99-$1.29 Equivalent)
    1500 streams = 1 Album Sale (10 Tracks / $9.99 Equivalent)
    75 Million Streams = 500,000 Singles Sold (RIAA Gold)
    150 Million Streams = 1 Million Singles Sold (RIAA Platinum)
    1.5 Billion Streams = 1 Million Albums Sold (RIAA Platinum)
    If you go RIAA Platinum on YouTube, you will get = $103,500
    If you go RIAA Platinum on Spotify, you will get = $655,550
    If you go RIAA Platinum on Apple Music, you will get = $1,102,500

    #32485 Reply

    jdstamper
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    Hey David, thanks for sharing the info

    Not sure I understand, so this show was only streamed 7 times on Netflix? Is that a typo?

    Are you able to share the name of the show?

    I have a few tracks submitted to Netflix via a library but I haven’t seen a placement yet

    #32488 Reply

    daveydad
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    All it shows is 1 next to each episode of the 7 shows… so I assume it only means 7 times. Which does seem odd for streaming. All my others showed thousands of streams. The shows were one Ink Master and the rest Save Our Shelter.

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