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September 8, 2014 at 9:05 am #17888Mark LewisParticipant
It took me a while to realize it but music is not like milk.
A quart of milk should cost less than a gallon of milk.But a perfectly edited piece of music that the customer loves only saves them money in audio editing. It is worth more than the full length track at the point.
Music is not like milk ๐
September 8, 2014 at 9:42 am #17889yzzman1ParticipantAwesome analogy!
September 10, 2014 at 1:44 pm #17936AaronMGuestI feel inspired now! ๐ This is an area I’ve been completely overlooking. To date, I’m at about 35 tracks with sales here and there and almost ZERO edits. Now I’m really starting to think about the possibilities.
September 10, 2014 at 4:17 pm #17938Rob (Cruciform)GuestIt took me a while to realize it but music is not like milk.
A quart of milk should cost less than a gallon of milk.But a perfectly edited piece of music that the customer loves only saves them money in audio editing. It is worth more than the full length track at the point.
Mark,
That’s a great way to look at it. I have to thank you for this perspective!
September 10, 2014 at 5:54 pm #17939Chuck MottGuestThanks Mark (and Art) for the perspective. Yes took me a minute to wrap my head around that system but yes 2 I’m in both have a way of packaging the music that way. It never occurred to me to do it that way there, thinking collections were simply for various , for example , rock tracks. Thanks for that, now I’m thinking if you are going to spend the extra time doing the edits, doesn’t make sense not to also sell the “packages”. Great idea.
September 11, 2014 at 5:40 am #17941KubedParticipantsold a stinger today,my latest 4 sales are all edits.Considering i’ve only started uploading edits in late July it’s very promising.
September 11, 2014 at 6:12 am #17942Mark LewisParticipantlol!
I’m telling you, everyone should be doing edits.Some composers think negatively about the time it takes to do them but if you consider that you only do them once in your life (you don’t have to keep recreating edits for every sale) then it is actually a long term investment rather than an hourly time consideration.
It is a one time investment of 30 minutes or so that will pay off forever, like a 401k.September 11, 2014 at 1:28 pm #17949ChuckMottParticipantYes, I sell at least as many edits to date as I do full tracks, especially stingers. am considering putting together some packages of just stingers also. I basically do the 15-30s-60s and beds, and sometimes loops. This last track I put up a “condensed version” version of the track,and some loops within. Now packaging everything altogether as a separate package, that is something I’d not considered.
September 11, 2014 at 3:40 pm #17951MichaelLParticipantSome composers think negatively about the time it takes to do them but if you consider that you only do them once in your life (you don’t have to keep recreating edits for every sale) then it is actually a long term investment rather than an hourly time consideration.
Editing might be be harder for composers who are playing a lot of tracks live, like guitar overdubs. For writers sequencing in a DAW editing is a piece of cake, especially if you think of edit points while you are writing. That way you’re not forcing things to fit.
Note: I’m not talking about cues, not songs with lyrics.
September 12, 2014 at 12:14 am #17955MarkGuestAnother suggestion to add to your list of edit types would be a ‘No Melody’ alt mix.
Editors love these as they can easily go back and forth between the two mixes to duck out the melody when someone is speaking.September 12, 2014 at 3:52 am #17956MarkGuestEditing might be be harder for composers who are playing a lot of tracks live,
I really don’t think it is. Editors used to use a razor blade to physically cut tape to make edits. With all the options we have at our fingertips now there is no excuse not to make edits, whether it is with live music or sequenced or both. You can crossfade, adjust time on an ending, place your ending and make your cut in the middle somewhere, there are tons of tricks and tools.
I was a music supervisor and audio editor at Mutato Muzika in another lifetime. I know of what I speak.September 12, 2014 at 4:07 am #17957KubedParticipantGood point about the “No Melody/No Lead” version,i’ve heard it’s also called “Narrative” version and more & more people/libraries ask for them.And this is a very easy edit to do,in comparison with 60/30 edits!
September 12, 2014 at 4:49 am #17958MichaelLParticipantEditors used to use a razor blade to physically cut tape to make edits.
I know. I spent many years cutting music and FX tracks on a Steenbeck for films in the 70’s and 80’s.
I don’t think it’s physically harder, but perhaps conceptually harder. Often when I do an edit in a DAW, I don’t just make a cut. I alter the composition so that the cut makes sense within the structure of the cue. That’s easier to do on the midi level than the audio level.
September 12, 2014 at 5:27 am #17961MarkGuestAs long as you have a clear beginning and a definite ending then you should be able to get everything you need directly from the final audio (in regards to 15/30/60 edits)
The only thing that might need to be created separately are the stings.
The alt mixes are of course no brainers.I don’t agree at all that having live audio in your music will make your music harder to edit.
September 12, 2014 at 6:32 am #17962MichaelLParticipantI don’t agree at all that having live audio in your music will make your music harder to edit.
It doesn’t. I do it all the time.
But, there are edits, and there are “edits.” Some work well musically, and some are just butchered.
I meant that some people might be uncomfortable editing a live performance. They shouldn’t be. It just takes a little practice to do edits well, and make them work.
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