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Hi all,
Just curious if anyone has received any income from SE or HFA yet? It seems like an enormous undertaking that pulls away from music making?
Reading through this thread was although very informative, it was also exhausting :0)
Yes. Below are 9 HFA Payouts I had last year. I also just received my first royalty distribution of 2019 for $525. This isn’t much based on 27 albums released and around 40 million streams of my songs since 2016. Many tracks were marketed and promoted by a 3rd party label that knows what they are doing inside this space. I can conclude that unless there is a marketing and promotional strategy to actually jack up stream counts, it may not be worth it to spend a lot of valuable time preparing consumer album releases. When you self release you will just get 25 to 100 streams a year per tune (unless you morph into a mega pop star or just by fluke, a “production music cue” tune takes off and gets popular on spotify for some strange reason).
There needs to be a marketing and promotional effort to get the stream counts inflated into the millions which then generate “streaming mechanical” royalty payments like you see below. I would not have been able to accomplish this if I just released through CD baby and did things on my own. You need marketing and promotion of the music and that does cost money. I’m thinking real hard about buying stock in Spotify. They reported a profit for the first time ever 2 weeks back.
$390.05 SPOTIFY USA INC.
$962.96 HFA CONSOLIDATED PAYABLE
$390.08 SPOTIFY USA INC.
$499.15 SPOTIFY USA INC.
$225.60 FACEBOOK INC.
$366.22 SPOTIFY USA, INC.
$91.64 SPOTIFY USA, INC. May 29, 2018
$2.11 HFA CONSOLIDATED PAYABLE Mar 27, 2018
$65.28 SPOTIFY USA, INC. Mar 2, 2018What does “DSP” refer to in this thread?
Thanks Art.
Two related questions for you all:
I get my ISRC from AS. But the ISRC does not relate to my ‘version’ only the library version. Does this matter?
How are you guys getting UPC and ISRC codes? Are you sending all your NE tracks to places like CD Baby that include those codes as part of their service? Or are you getting accounts and codes from the ISRC organization for ISRC, and GS1 for UPC?
Here is a current link to the online application for ISRC
https://www.usisrc.org/applications/question/1More info re Assignment https://www.usisrc.org/about/assignment_guidelines.html
2. An ISRC should remain with its recording for the life of the recording regardless of changes in ownership, licensing, territory or method of distribution. The rights may vary territory by territory but the ISRC remains the same.
3. You should take particular care to ensure that you (i) never assign the same ISRC to two different recordings and (ii) never assign an ISRC to a recording that already has an ISRC issued.
Your ISRC Registrant Code is your unique part of the ISRC Code that you embed in your songs
This page has info that might be helpful regarding Music Library assignments.
https://www.usisrc.org/about/assignment_guidelines.html
in particular2. An ISRC should remain with its recording for the life of the recording regardless of changes in ownership, licensing, territory or method of distribution. The rights may vary territory by territory but the ISRC remains the same.
3. You should take particular care to ensure that you (i) never assign the same ISRC to two different recordings and (ii) never assign an ISRC to a recording that already has an ISRC issued.
I think the Library has to be an ‘ISRC Manager’ for sound recordings or music video recordings owned by other parties, but don’t know how that works.
Also, who is GS1 for UPC?Sorry for double posting :-/ I didn’t know it could take a while for some posts to appear after submitting to the thread..
I don’t remember paying for my ISRC Code and would like a UPC code but I don’t think I need a whole setup like I saw at STEM. It’s just me and no music submitted to any libraries yet, but songs posted online in several places. What do the Acronyms AS and GS1 stand for?
FWIW- you can change the ISRC assigned by AS. It’s not possible by default, but if you email them they will enable the capability. So if you already have an ISRC assigned to a recording, or if one becomes assigned later you can avoid having two different codes for a single recording.
<The problem with that is that if a library releases your track on a compilation album, theoretically, you can’t release it again, AFAIK. That’s why I don’t let anyone release for me.>
Art, so does this mean that you don’t have your AS songs streaming on RadioSparx or their other platforms? What do you mean by “you can’t release it again”?
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