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June 17, 2018 at 8:52 am #30280MusicmattersParticipant
Hello, has anyone here tried the detection services offered by sourceaudio, they are substantially cheaper than tunesat which I have always thought was too expensive for composers. Thanks
June 17, 2018 at 8:59 am #30281Art MunsonKeymasterI could be wrong but I think Sourceaudio’s detection service is an add on to their hosting of your audio files (which is expensive).
June 18, 2018 at 10:26 am #30290dcrhereParticipantSourceAudio’s trotting a new service out in a few months that’s significantly cheaper and may have a watermarking option. Stay tuned
August 14, 2018 at 6:43 am #30666MusicmattersParticipantI did hear back from the people at sourceaudio and can confirm that the detection service is not an add on but a separate service and is very reasonably priced. You can confirm with your PRO if they will accept their data or not. Tunesat really need to bring their prices down…cheers
August 14, 2018 at 2:06 pm #30667Art MunsonKeymasterTunesat really need to bring their prices down…cheers
Sourceaudio’s system is watermarking. This means your music files have to be watermarked before you send them for broadcast. Tunesat’s will detect existing files that are already being broadcast.
So, if you already have music being broadcast, Sourceaudio will not detect it.
From their website.
21. When will I begin receiving detections on my watermarks?Watermarking inherently involves adding new information to your audio files. As such, newly watermarked music must be distributed to program producers, synched in their programming, and that programming aired before detections can occur.
August 15, 2018 at 12:54 am #30668Paul GelsomineGuestSourceaudio’s system is watermarking. This means your music files have to be watermarked before you send them for broadcast. Tunesat’s will detect existing files that are already being broadcast.
So, if you already have music being broadcast, Sourceaudio will not detect it.
But the broadcast material wouldn’t be watermarked.
So how does that affect detection?
August 15, 2018 at 3:10 am #30669Happy EarsParticipantI think Art meant to say “Tunesat’s will NOT detect existing files that are already being broadcast”.
August 15, 2018 at 4:54 am #30670Paul GelsomineGuestHappy Ears
Thanks for the clarification. Appreciated!
August 15, 2018 at 7:42 am #30671Art MunsonKeymasterI think Art meant to say “Tunesat’s will NOT detect existing files that are already being broadcast”.
Please do not put words in my mouth Happy Ears. I stand by my statement: “Tunesat will detect existing files that are already being broadcast.”
Sourceaudio will only will ONLY detect files if they have been watermarked.
Tunesat files do not need to be watermarked. They are two different systems.
I repeat, if you already have music being broadcast, Sourceaudio will not detect it if it hasn’t been watermarked by Sourceaudio. On the other hand, Tunesat will detect it without a watermark. Though, to be fair, Sourceaudio’s system is probably more accurate.
August 15, 2018 at 5:46 pm #30678Happy EarsParticipantSorry Art and Paul, for some reason I read “Tunesat” as “Source Audio”. in that sentence. It was in the middle of the night……:)
August 15, 2018 at 7:39 pm #30680LAwriterParticipantThough, to be fair, Sourceaudio’s system is probably more accurate.
Magnatudes more accurate. IMO, the way of the future. I was doing a bit of consulting with them when they started to move into the audio watermark arena, and they shared some of their test criteria. It’s a very robust system.
August 16, 2018 at 12:59 am #30683Paul GelsomineGuestThanks for the clarification Art, quite clearer now on the Audio watermarking bit.
One question though. Currently, do any of the US PROs accept either one of these companies detections as proof of performance?
August 16, 2018 at 7:46 am #30684Art MunsonKeymasterCurrently, do any of the US PROs accept either one of these companies detections as proof of performance?
BMI doesn’t pay on it but it is helpful in tracking down cue sheets or alerting a library to track down. The one area it has helped tremendously, for me, is with commercials. Once detected I can find it on Competitrack and BMI does pay from Competitrack. We currently have a commercial that is running on all channels that I would not have known about if it hadn’t been for Tunesat.
September 2, 2018 at 11:51 pm #30769conorob25GuestAwesome thread, guys and great tips there, Art. In regards to chasing payment/ cue sheet for commercial usage, would you normally wait and see with a few royalty statements before chasing it up with your PRO? If so how long?
Cheers!
September 3, 2018 at 9:11 am #30771Art MunsonKeymasterIn regards to chasing payment/ cue sheet for commercial usage, would you normally wait and see with a few royalty statements before chasing it up with your PRO? If so how long?
I would wait three quarters, as that’s how long it usually takes. I have an Oxiclean commercial currently running that started back in June. Will hopefully see some of it in March 2019 statement. If not, will contact BMI.
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