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    GreggB
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    Hello,

    My writing partner and I have got a collection of high quality songs together that we’ve been recording for the past couple of years. I’m currently gathering publishing contacts to approach. I’m also interested in submitting to music libraries, however reading the policy of AudioSparks it seems like they require a perpetual use of the songs. Does this mean that if we get a publisher interested, then they will pull the deal when they find out AudioSparks has a perpetual license on a recording of the songs?

    Thanks for any help,

    GreggB

    #25190 Reply
    Art Munson
    Keymaster

    Does this mean that if we get a publisher interested, then they will pull the deal when they find out AudioSparks has a perpetual license on a recording of the songs?

    Most likely. You want to leave those songs totally unencumbered.

    #25191 Reply
    MichaelL
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    Does this mean that if we get a publisher interested, then they will pull the deal when they find out AudioSparks has a perpetual license on a recording of the songs?

    The problem with this approach is that you are looking for a library, or libraries, to be place holders until something better comes along, which really isn’t fair to the libraries involved.

    If your music has the juice to get a big deal, then shoot the moon and go for it before you have to go pulling tracks out of libraries. Then, if nothing comes of it you can put your tracks into long-term agreements without losing sleep wondering what might have been.

    In the meantime, consider producing some music for libraries rather than thinking of them as your second choice.

    #25192 Reply
    LAwriter
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    The worst possible thing you could tell a publisher is….” oh you want them? GREAT!!! Oh, uh, ummm, I have to remove them from the music libraries they’re in first……”

    Choose one of the other, not both.

    #25195 Reply
    MuscoSound
    Participant

    +1

    #25197 Reply
    GreggB
    Guest

    Thanks very much for the advice all above!

    #25200 Reply
    Happy Ears
    Participant

    Make 1.5-2.00 min instrumental edits and use those for libraries then save the full length vocal version for the publishers. In 6-7 years when the vocal versions are starting to sound dated and still haven’t gone anywhere you can add those as well 🙂

    #25202 Reply
    guscave
    Guest

    Make 1.5-2.00 min instrumental edits and use those for libraries then save the full length vocal version for the publishers.

    I wouldn’t do this if you’re seriously considering pitching your songs to major publishers. They will want the rights to the “full” song. Just because you’re giving a library 2 min worth of a 4 min song doesn’t change the copyrights that are involved. This can appear to the publisher as if you’re trying to pull a fast one on them and ruin whatever relationship you are trying to establish with them.

    You can however use a few tracks like drums and bass from your original song and re-create a few “NEW” tracks for libraries, but leave the original as is.

    #25203 Reply
    Advice
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    STRONGLY agree with what Gus said here. If you put a 1.5-2.0 minute instrumental mix in a non-exclusive library, you cannot put any version of it, with or without vocal, in an exclusive library. That would be a definite contract violation.

    The instrumental underlying a vocal is part of the same song copyright. And also keep in mind that libraries will give the music sup versions with and without vocal and during final editing sometimes they only end up using the instrumental, or mostly that. They are inseparable.

    Advice

    #25208 Reply
    MichaelL
    Participant

    Guscave and Advice are correct. Edits and alt mixes are derivative versions of the underlying work. Not a good idea.

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