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May 1, 2018 at 6:58 am #29983MichaelLParticipant
But this is what is so mind boggling, frustrating, and confusing: you have a group of talented folks in “Music City” clearly they have some knowledge about this business …Then they serve up a $135 a year subscription scheme to provide cost savings to people who are A. not at all in need of it and B. probably not even asking for it.
That’s possibly the product of devaluing this type of commercial music in their own minds, and seeing it as nothing more than fast-food burgers on a grill that will generate another revenue stream.
But, TBH there are a lot of musical “Pampers” out there that are completely disposable. What value do we put on those in comparison to high-quality tracks, Music1234? What are those disposable tracks worth?
What if libraries like AJ and P5 only put tracks into their subscription plans from a pool of tracks that has never sold, creating some income for us from tracks that had previously generated none?
May 1, 2018 at 7:45 am #29984Music1234ParticipantMichale L, I honestly think that tracks that never sold ought to just fall off the assembly line and go away. If I was running a big stock music licensing site, I’d have the track auto delete after 1 to 2 years if it never sold. We should not be dumping the price down and trying to lure customers with tracks they already passed on. I don’t see that as a good strategy. Or I guess let them sit their in search at the bottom of the digital pile.
The Nashville company is not using dump unsold tracks as a strategy. See there presentation at NAB.
Also, why the “NO PRO” talk from a Music city company when I inquired about worldwide advertising campaigns for Billion dollar burger companies? explain that?
Let me address really old, dated sounding tracks…you just never know. I have had 2 experiences in the last month that brought a smile to my face where a customer paid good money – not $20, for tunes I THOUGHT were irrelevant, dated, really just dead as a door nail. It was not the case in their mind!! Thank you for the bonus!
May 1, 2018 at 8:02 am #29985MichaelLParticipantLet me address really old, dated sounding tracks…you just never know. I have had 2 experiences in the last month that brought a smile to my face where a customer paid good money – not $20…
Same here. Sold a 35-year old track (remastered) for 4x the sticker price. It happens.
I really don’t know what the Nashville people are thinking excpet perhaps they’ve tried it our way and think they can make more predictable upfront money from subscriptions. Maybe they’re inspired by Protools and all the tech companies offering software subscriptions…the wave of the future, etc etc. On the other hand maybe it’s like car leasing, allowing people to have something that they can’t afford to buy.
May 1, 2018 at 8:07 am #29986Music1234ParticipantQuestion for all writers and publishers:
Has anyone ever heard a client say “Gee tracks are so expensive these days, I wish I could find cheaper music?”
May 1, 2018 at 8:17 am #29987MichaelLParticipantHas anyone ever heard a client say “Gee tracks are so expensive these days, I wish I could find cheaper music?”
In the world of clients, as in professional media producers, no.
Sadly, if you include the guys posting “how to remove AJ audio watermark” tutorials on youtube, because they think AJ’s prices are outrageous, then I guess, yes. But, TBH, they don’t seem to be inclined to pay anything.
A lot of that may be coming from people who hope to make money creating youtube videos. Of course, those hopes are more attenuated now that youtube is demonitizing channels with fewer than 1,000 subscribers. Goodbye to all those “how to make sweaters from dryer lint” videos.
May 1, 2018 at 9:13 am #29989Music1234ParticipantWell I’ve actually have heard professional media clients make comments about how ridiculously cheap music is. I’ve had customers write privately and offer a lot more money. “Excuse me, but we need to upgrade this.”
Goodbye to all those “how to make sweaters from dryer lint” videos.
Yes! let them go straight to the garbage can.
You see more and more, youtube (GOOGLE) is becoming a TV network. In my opinion, it IS the largest TV network in the world with the most amount of channels in the world. All of us here, publishers and writers, should be putting pressure on lawmakers to shake google down for more money into the PRO pot so more performance royalties can be paid from YOUTUBE streams. A lot more!
ASCAP hitting record revenue of 1.1 Billion is a positive development
https://www.ascap.com/press/2018/04/04-19-financials-2017
More money for PROS, should mean more money for writers.
We have had some wins with the music modernization act passing, people ARE buying music again. I pay $10 a month for tunes on Spotify. I used to buy 1 CD a month as a kid. So the business is getting my money again.
May 1, 2018 at 9:31 am #29992LAwriterParticipantMore money for PROS, should mean more money for writers.
More money for PRO’s means more money for their pet projects and fave hipster writers – not for the places where the money should be flowing. but that’s a different topic,,,,,
May 2, 2018 at 2:10 pm #30011FranklinVParticipantWhy was I the first one to give this video a thumbs down? I know it is not a monumental statement, but it is something!! Come on guys their should be 1000 thumbs down and a 1000 negative comments. It is the very least we can do.
May 2, 2018 at 2:19 pm #30013Art MunsonKeymasterWhy was I the first one to give this video a thumbs down?
What video?
May 3, 2018 at 1:47 pm #30015FranklinVParticipantI replied to the Soundstripe video link and conversation. I am not sure how it ended up here.
Sorry Art I mean no disrespect but I am a bit frustrated. I hear a lot of talk about these terrible new models. But no real action.I just think their are so many options rather than sit by and watch.For starters, in my mind, every one of these sites that post a video on Youtube should be met with a comment from every person on this site. That shifts the power from them to us immediately. They will have no option but to remove them if they have a couple hundred negative comments.Their is only one of them but so many of us. It is perfectly legal, Takes almost no effort by any one person. And discourages others from following in their footsteps.May 3, 2018 at 2:27 pm #30016LAwriterParticipantThat is a GREAT idea @FranklinV !!!!!!!
Art, how could we facilitate this in an organized manor???
May 3, 2018 at 3:27 pm #30017Art MunsonKeymasterStart a thread and post the video links. No comments, just the links. If you post comments then the thread gets polluted quickly.
May 3, 2018 at 3:48 pm #30018Music1234ParticipantI just want to say that several composers did question the facebook advertising campaign of Artlist IO. They were aggressively advertising their subscription service on facebook and simultaneously trying to recruit contributors a few months back. The owner of the company immediately deleted any negative comments or challenging questions and has since blocked all comments. The only comments allowed are the very fake positive endorsements like “AWESOME!” “Great music” “Amazing idea” “This is Great”.
Soundstripe is doing the same phony YT campaign so yes its a fantastic idea for every composer to shame them on youtube and facebook . See here:
Great idea Franklin.
May 3, 2018 at 4:20 pm #30019LAwriterParticipantThe comments on that yt video are so insipid and stupid that it’s almost comical. Almost.
May 3, 2018 at 6:17 pm #30020Art MunsonKeymasterI left a comment and thumbs down. Come on Music1234 and LAWriter step it up!
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