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April 11, 2019 at 11:55 am #32055Art MunsonKeymaster
Numerator is not in the business of charging writers for the data they min
True but that was not the point. The point was how they identify an “occurrence”.
April 11, 2019 at 12:39 pm #32056Music1234ParticipantWell numerator can not identify 2 of my spots airing in Europe right now. Tunesat did though. So I am armed with that knowledge. I have 2 TV spots on air in Europe. I found them on youtube. But now what? All I can do is send youtube links of the spots to my USA PRO and hope that they chase the performance royalties down on my behalf and pay me in 2 years through the reciprocal agreements? This approach does not give me any confidence of future payment. Any advice for me? It sure would be nice to get paid in 2020 for 2019 air dates but I doubt that will be the case. We need a “numerator” for Europe I suppose. Does that service exist over there?
April 11, 2019 at 1:46 pm #32057Art MunsonKeymasterWell numerator can not identify 2 of my spots airing in Europe right now.
Sounds like you are SOL.
April 11, 2019 at 1:58 pm #32058Music1234ParticipantI will stay on this and find a way to get paid. I am waiting for responses from my PRO. I have been paid for European spots before and I know one way to do it is to actually find a publisher over there and ask them to register the title as sub publisher. They would then collect on my behalf and send me the money, but I am trying to avoid that because frankly, I should be collecting as both writer and publisher through the reciprocal agreements.
All of this nonsense could be avoided if stock sites would actually take broadcast TV spot licensing more seriously. I am not sure numerator means a damn thing to the UK, France, Germany, and The Netherlands (PRS, SACEM, GEMA, BUMA STERMA) If some European writers who are members of these pros can chime in, that would be ideal. Anyone?
April 12, 2019 at 2:49 pm #32073AllanGiorgioParticipantI finally got into numerator. Tunesat detections are 20 now, different cable channels (MTV UK, Channel 5, Comedy Central UK, etc), but numerator search results are only 1 on MTV.
Question: is the “ad code” what I need to send to BMI in case I don’t see any statements in the future?
April 12, 2019 at 3:23 pm #32075Art MunsonKeymasterQuestion: is the “ad code” what I need to send to BMI in case I don’t see any statements in the future?
File the form now. Fill out as much as you can and place the code where indicated on the form. E-mail to CJINGLES@BMI.COM.
April 12, 2019 at 4:49 pm #32077AllanGiorgioParticipantI’ve already sent the info with the ad code.
Honestly I couldn’t have figured this out without your help. Big thanks!
April 12, 2019 at 5:12 pm #32078Art MunsonKeymasterMy pleasure AllanGiorgio!
August 17, 2019 at 2:32 pm #32890OrcaParticipantHi Guys,
I’ve also recently found out that an old track of mine has been bought, probably through a popular RF website and is currently being used for an advert on youtube and multiple TV stations in the US.
I’m in the UK so have contacted the PRS and with all the details that I have and am waiting to see how they respond.
I contacted Numerator through their website thttps://www.numerator.com/contact-us (thanks for the info and the link Art!) but haven’t heard back from them yet. I’ll post an update on here if/when I do.
Fingers crossed!!
Orca
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