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    Alan
    Participant

    I’ve been at this for a couple of years now and am shocked at the number of errors I see on my tiny PRO statements. This seems like a good string to mention it. I took note of it when I had hit the 50 placement milestone a year or so ago. Of those first 50 placements, there were 9 incorrectly credited publishers and one cue was not in the show I was credited for (I listened for it, it was not there). That’s nearly a 20% failure rate (that I know of)!

    Since Tunesat is not an option for me yet, I can only sigh and hope I’m not losing too much $$ from all these errors.

    #13668 Reply
    Chuckhughes2
    Guest

    Tunesat approached me 2 years ago offering just such a service, saying that they would compare ASCAP statements with their detections and file exception reports. I even spent $216 with them purchasing retroactive data. I have contacted them three times in the last year, first I was told it was delayed due to a hurricane, then because of a need to re-run data, then told I was being moved to the front of a cue. I never got the service. The whole reason I bought it was that I was hoping they would recover at least their $30/month cost, but I have gained nothing except 1820 detections from them. I guess I should write them again and see how they put me off this time.

    #13637 Reply
    Desire_Inspires
    Participant

    Doesn’t necessarily work that way. The publishing info could be correct but writer information is incorrect or missing. That’s what we have found so far.

    Oh, I meant that since publishers’ royalties and songwriters’ royalties are split 50/50. Whatever amount a publisher would get should theoretically be split amongst the songwriters. I guess that it probably isn’t necessary for publishers to worry about royalties. Good catch!

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    Art Munson
    Keymaster

    I guess that it probably isn’t necessary for publishers to worry about royalties.

    Not sure what that sentence means. Of course publishers would worry about royalties.

    #13790 Reply
    Art Munson
    Keymaster

    The next step is taking the reports he generates, along with copies of the cue sheets and any relevant data and present them to BMI for payment.

    Just a follow up to let everyone know that we’ve finished my reports, one for incorrectly paid cues and another for unpaid cues. I contacted the royalties department at BMI, sent them them reports and awaiting their response.

    #14224 Reply
    Mgeezy
    Guest

    And this is not only in BMI, imagine what happens in the rest of the world. I can confirm about the soundtracks from my Eastern European point of view. Especially if the title is localised in a local language, the PRO is basically unable to identify it. Huge amount of the royalties are classified as “unidentified”. It’s a world problem and right holders need to push for it’s resolution not only on a national level. None of the right holders should turn into accountants for that someone is making mistakes and not doing their jobs.

    #14226 Reply
    yzzman1
    Participant

    Really curious to see how this turns out….could be a very important step in improving this ongoing problem.

    #14281 Reply
    LAwriter
    Participant

    Typical….. It’s been a month and no reply Art? It HAS been the holidays, but one would think they might be able to find a way to get to it. Very interested in this process as well. Thanks for reporting.

    -LAWriter

    #14282 Reply
    Art Munson
    Keymaster

    Typical….. It’s been a month and no reply Art? It HAS been the holidays, but one would think they might be able to find a way to get to it.

    Actually, I just got an e-mail today. My contact e-mailed me before Christmas to say he would be off until Jan. 5th.

    I’ll be going over the spreadsheet tomorrow but a quick look and some things they agreed with and some need more info. I thought the response was quick considering it was only a few days after his return. Will keep everyone posted.

    #15084 Reply
    Art Munson
    Keymaster

    Been adding more and more cue sheets to the reconciliation process with my BMI statements and it’s pretty disheartening. So far 49% of the cue sheets in the system have underpaid or not paid at all! Many of the cues that are are co-written with Robin underpay one of us, or neglect paying at all! So while all the PRO payments we are getting are wonderful, you would be amazed how much money is being left on the table.

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