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November 1, 2013 at 12:35 pm #13335Art MunsonKeymaster
You can always drop me an email. We could get skype. Just confirmed that I’ll have broadband deep in the woods.
I think with Google video chat you can 10 people at once. There’s a start, the good old days, 21st century version!
November 1, 2013 at 12:35 pm #13336Art MunsonKeymasterYou can always drop me an email. We could get skype. Just confirmed that I’ll have broadband deep in the woods.
I think with Google video chat you can have 10 people at once. There’s a start, the good old days, 21st century version!
November 1, 2013 at 12:43 pm #13338MichaelLParticipantGreat idea Art. Now if we can get virtual pizza and take-out Chinese.
November 1, 2013 at 12:58 pm #13339woodsdenisParticipantGreat idea Art. Now if we can get virtual pizza and take-out Chinese.
Can I come too !!!!!!
November 1, 2013 at 1:02 pm #13340Art MunsonKeymasterOr that vegan sausage dish you came up with. 🙂
November 1, 2013 at 1:11 pm #13341Art MunsonKeymasterCan I come too !!!!!!
Sure enough!
November 1, 2013 at 1:18 pm #13342Art MunsonKeymasterBack on track.
An old friend of mine, Michael Ruff, tours a lot in Sweden and uses Swedish musicians when there. Same musical vibe as this original thread. He left L.A. many years ago and lives in Hawaii now. If you like great musicianship check out Michael.
Lots of live performances of Michael on YouTube.
November 1, 2013 at 1:39 pm #13343aresendeParticipantGreat vibe, Art!
Influenced by brazilian music, for sure. This rhythm is called “Partido Alto”.
November 1, 2013 at 5:19 pm #13345MichaelLParticipantOr that vegan sausage dish you came up with.
You got it!
November 3, 2013 at 6:36 am #13351More AdviceGuestVery interesting.
November 3, 2013 at 8:36 am #13352MichaelLParticipantTHIS IS JUST MY OPINION, NOT DIRECTED AT ANYONE.
Technology doesn’t kill things. It changes things.
My late father-in-law was a big band musician. He played in one of the CBS radio orchestras. He used to say that the day the radio station manager came in and fired the band because they were being replaced by records is the day the music business died.
It died for him. But, for people making records it was the start of a whole new world. Now, 60 years later, we’re whining and moaning that technology is killing, or has killed the record / music business.
Technology has done nothing but provide opportunities for me. Moreover, the advent of inexpensive technology has provided many opportunities for people who would normally be shut out of the old business model.
I guess that’s part of the debate here, that the undeserving are crowding the market. I’m sure that’s what my father-in-law thought when three chord rock n’roll replaced the shophisticated harmonic structure of big band swing, and it’s “trained” musicians. But, the fact remains, the transition to records created an entire industry which, like the radio orchestras before it, is changing.
It all moves in cycles. The “record” business, was one big cycle, whose time has come and gone. I’m sure that, like records, current technology will create a new industry for those willing to embrace it.
November 3, 2013 at 1:28 pm #13355markholdenParticipantYour points are well-taken, Michael, not unlike scribes and calligraphers being displaced by the printing press, blacksmiths trying to acclimate to the automobile, or the stenography pool grappling with word processors. History provides countless professional examples.
It’s a paradigm shift as one thing largely replaces another in terms of demand. Some values remain, others are modified, some are virtually lost. It can be as fundamental as ‘adapt or perish.’
Still, I’m not at all keen on hearing a John Williams score produced on a workstation.
– Mark Holden
November 3, 2013 at 2:53 pm #13356MichaelLParticipantUnfortunately or fortunately, depending on your perspective, Mark, our “ears” will be replaced by the ears of those who grew up listening to more and more music produced on workstations.
By analogy, there are several generations of people now who are completely unfamiliar with food the way our parents and grandparents prepared it. They are more accustomed to a burger at McDonald’s than a hand-formed burger cooked over charcoal on a grill. In fact, they most likely prefer it. So, to the ears of a younger audience, music that isn’t at least “hybrid” probably sounds dated and old fashioned.
And yes, it comes down to “adapt or perish.”November 3, 2013 at 4:58 pm #13357MichaelLParticipantStill, I’m not at all keen on hearing a John Williams score produced on a workstation.
Just as an aside, Mark, have you heard Mike Verta’s virtual spin on Williams’s style? Probably as good as it gets in the VI world.
November 3, 2013 at 10:44 pm #13359markholdenParticipantYes, I understand. The next logical step, perhaps an eventuality, will be AI software that will fulfill the musical needs of a film & TV producer. Highly scalable, adaptive and affordable. It’ll score a scene 20 different ways in real time and modify from pref windows on the fly.
Will this really be music? It certainly will be if the producers say it’s music and most people accept it as such. Hey, who would stand in the way of progress? On the other hand, it’ll be a de facto chasm for approximately 800 years of Western music. Oh well, c’est la vie! Not really bitter, just nostalgic. I miss musicians!
– Mark Holden
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