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    Alan
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    I had a situation I thought is worth sharing with the community..
    I learned one of my top selling tracks was being blocked on YouTube for copyright infringement. I received emails from 3 non-ex libraries complaining that their customers’ videos were being taken down. One of them even issued a refund to the purchaser. The claimant was WMG (Warner Music Group) After months of aggravation here is what I learned had happened.

    -Production company licensed my track for a skit on Comedy Central. They sub-contract WMG to put ALL audio from ALL their comedy sketches on YouTube and copyright them. My track was used as background for one of those. There was no malice, just bad luck.

    Things I learned:
    The library that originally licensed the track was not very helpful. They also complained to me (rudely) that one of their customers had a take down. I had to point out to them that it was their customer who violated their contract and started all this. They said they would work on it but weeks went by with no results.
    Fortunately, I had a record of the production company that used the track on Comedy Central so I contacted them myself. They explained what happened, were apologetic and said they would take care of it ASAP.
    I also posted my own video with my track, and it was immediately blocked. Then I could file a dispute with YouTube and explain to them what happened.

    After a few weeks I posted another video with the track and it went through. Hopefully it is resolved, but I really can’t be certain.

    #24931 Reply
    MichaelL
    Participant

    Who was library?

    #24932 Reply
    Alan
    Participant

    It was AS MichaelL. They claimed they were working on it and “escalating” it. Once I decided to do it myself it seemed to be resolved within a day or two. Maybe it was they who resolved it, but I think it was my efforts.

    #24934 Reply
    MichaelL
    Participant

    Seems like WMG was over-reaching there, but youtube needs to have a way of separating content owned by multiple parties.

    Glad it was resolved.

    #24935 Reply
    MichaelL
    Participant

    I’m going to amend my answer. WMG was over-reaching unless the track involved was some kind of sound-alike, that may have triggered a notice based on a track that WMG actually owns. That changes the whole scenario.

    I suppose running a sound-alike through youtube’s system would be one way of checking to see if you’re too close to anything.

    #24937 Reply
    Mark_Petrie
    Participant

    Oh geez… glad you could get it sorted. It’s a headache when it goes as far as a client’s claim on your music (I’ve had claims like “Joe’s Secrets to Sales Success” on tracks before) but for a big label to get entangled, I wouldn’t know where to start!

    What was your process for dealing with it?

    #24938 Reply
    Heiko
    Guest

    I wonder what would happen in a case like this if you had your own tracks registered with YT Content ID by yourself before. I know it’s no option with AS, but just theoretically.
    I mean, would you be safe?

    #24940 Reply
    MichaelL
    Participant

    I mean, would you be safe?

    Safe from what? It would cause major problems for all of the libraries that you’re in by triggering copyright violation notices everytime someone uses your music in a YT video.

    #24941 Reply
    Alan
    Participant

    MichaelL, It was a sound alike but not close enough to trigger a copyright of the original. Here is and example of what triggered the copyright claim.

    As you can see, there is no video, just audio stripped from the show and copyrighted. My track was in the background of one of these. Incidentally, there was another AS sound alike from a different composer on that same video. I reached out to him via soundcloud to see if he was having the same issue. He has not replied.

    The current copyright disputes were resolved, I still don’t know for sure if new uploads will trigger more take downs. If anyone wants to help me out on this please PM me. I can send you a short mp3 of the track to upload to YouTube. I would like to know if it gets through.

    Mark Petrie
    The whole process was pretty long with several dead ends. I’ll post the full story if you or anyone else thinks it would be useful.

    #24945 Reply
    NY Composer
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    While we are on this topic, I wonder what you guys feel about the Rumblefish program. Not sure if I should opt out or not.

    I originally opted in for Crucial but they told me it’s not too late to opt out. I having been hearing too many bad stories about internet video use.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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