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Could anybody give more details on that NCTA payment that LAwriter talked about?
I did receive it in the past, but it was just a couple of dollars. How did I earn those few dollars? Just because I’ve had placements on US TV shows in the past?
From your experiences, how much money can you make from NCTA?
Any info would be great!
August 11, 2016 at 11:55 am in reply to: Is "performance free" really that bad if tiered pricing?? #25492MaLmusicParticipantThe problem I have with this is: clients who buy music don’t have to pay the PROs, the networks do.
If a library has a specific performance-free licence for owners of small public places (restaurant, shop, cafe etc..) who want music to play at their places without worrying about paying the PROs, then I think I would be ok with that. But offering that licence for TV/commercial productions makes no sense, it doesn’t save the client any money, and the composer is losing “free” money too.
MaLmusicParticipantJust a quick note… People “worrying” about the number of tracks it takes to make a living, I understand, it’s normal to worry about that. But in the end, you should worry about your connections/networking and finding ways to get better opportunities.
If I made 100 cues last year, and I earned $1000 from them, this doesn’t mean that, in order to make $50’000 per year, I need to make 5’000 cues per year! This means I need to get into better libraries, get in touch with active music supervisors etc… who will place the tracks I send them, and not just put them in their catalog and wait for someone to magically find them.
Some (high-profile) composers could live off the royalties they get from just 1 track!
Some composers could make 100’000 cues and submit them to SuperAmazingRoyaltyFreeMusic.com, and they won’t make a dime…
I know I’m exaggerating a bit, but you probably get the point!
MaLmusicParticipantThanks, yeah it’s probably best to just ask the libraries, and see what they say.
MaLmusicParticipantOh I see, that’s too bad, but thanks for the answer!
MaLmusicParticipantI have a few questions about royalties for TV commercials, hopefully some of you can help me out.
Recently I had a track used in a credit card TV commercial, and so far, Tunesat has picked up about 225 airings, and still counting (mostly on BET, MTV2 and Logo).
When I check on iSpot.tv, the numbers are about the same as my Tunesat numbers, but for some reasons, when I check on Competitrack, the spot only has 16 airings right now.
If I understand right, it seems like ASCAP and BMI only use Competitrack’s numbers, so am I just out of luck? Or is there any chance they could consider Tunesat’s numbers or iSpot’s numbers?
Also, at what point is it worth it to pursue royalties for commercials? Should I wait until there was over 500 airings or something like that?
MaLmusicParticipantHere’s a small contribution, for Canadian TV channels… They’re for the full share of royalties, so you should divide it by 2 if you only own the writer’s share. It’s in Canadian $, and it’s for 1 BG usage. From what I know, time of day makes no difference, unless it’s during night time, then it’s much lower.
CBC – $26.08 per min
CTV – $75.98 per min
Global – $55.47
TVA – $30.50
SRC – $23.27
V – $9.32
PBS – $1.15 per min
City – $31 per minMTVCanada – $1.77 per min
A&E – $3.84 per min
Discovery – $7.94 per min
TSN – $29.59 per min
RDS – $12.61 per min
Lifetime – $1.61 per min
Slice – $3.41 per min
Food Network – $5.26 per min
HGTV – $5.96 per min
MuchMusic – $2.72 per minMaLmusicParticipantok thanks, good to see their requirements are “flexible”
MaLmusicParticipantOut of curiosity, I checked out the Jingle report form on BMI’s website:
http://www.bmi.com/pdfs/commercial_jingle.pdf
And they ask for a copy of the “sync” contract… If you’re not sure where the track was purchased from, what do you do? And even if you know, do you just ask the RF site to send you a copy of the licence agreement for that particular transaction?
MaLmusicParticipant“It probably isn’t illegal, but what benefit would you gain?”
Just out of curiosity, to see what kind of royalties you can expect. (Maybe I wasn’t clear, but I was talking about a deal where you still get the writer’s share)
MaLmusicParticipantHey, quick question on Tunesat… Let’s say you’ve made music for a company under a “work-for-hire” agreement, and the copyright of the tracks belong to the company… Would you upload those tracks on Tunesat to see if they were placed on some TV shows/commercials? Or is it “illegal”?
MaLmusicParticipantWhat I can say is SOCAN (Canada’s PRO) started paying royalties for internet “performances”, including Youtube. To be honest, I’m a bit confused, I don’t really understand how it all works, but I’ve been receiving some money for internet royalties since November’s payment. Really low payments though, less than $1 each time, but I don’t even know how I managed to earn those royalties lol. I’ve had placements on MTV shows, so maybe those royalties come from people watching the show on MTV’s website.
Anyways, here’s more info on all that:
http://www.socan.ca/content/tariff-22-faqs
Hopefully more people can bring more info about this subject.
MaLmusicParticipantGood to know! Looks like a win-win situation
MaLmusicParticipantthat’s an interesting situation… do you know if the library would have the rights to take a % of the writer’s royalties just because they added some stuff to the instrumental? Hopefully not
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