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I think there’s no good answer.
You have to provide enough tracks that you have a shot at getting placements. If you provide 10 tracks and don’t get placements, you haven’t learned much. If you provide 100 tracks and don’t get placements, you burned 100 tracks.
This is a large part of the risk of signing your tracks without an upfront fee.
composerParticipantEvery situation is different. Nonetheless, I’ll boldly throw out a number to start the conversation. I’d say around 4 years, give or take a lot.
I’ve had the experience of getting no placements for 2-3 years and then getting a lot of placements, so it’s hard to say.
I’ve also had the experience of getting no placements for 2-3 years, then no placements for the next 2-3 years as well…
It also depends on whether you have a better place to put those tracks. How licensable are the tracks? Is your time best spent producing new and better tracks?
September 9, 2014 at 12:33 pm in reply to: Why Does Tunesat pick up the B.S. Channels THE MOST #17923composerParticipantMy experience is based on paying for the service and tracking hundreds of tracks for quite a while.
September 9, 2014 at 11:59 am in reply to: Why Does Tunesat pick up the B.S. Channels THE MOST #17921composerParticipantI don’t think Tunesat is even 50% though. Is there an alternative service that I should consider using?
September 9, 2014 at 8:21 am in reply to: Why Does Tunesat pick up the B.S. Channels THE MOST #17915composerParticipantThis has been my experience with Tunesat as well, more or less. Tunesat picks up a small percentage of the placements that appear on my PRO statements.
I agree that it’s a good idea to follow up with Tunesat so they know how the service is working. They are very responsive.composerParticipantjingle punks, with whom i was formerly non-exclusive and am now exclusive (but left my older tracks as NE), isn’t doing as much for me as they have in the past. i’ve been contributing to the exclusive library since jan 2012 and have only seen one or two placements (whereas my old NE cues still get regular placements).
This is my experience as well.
composerParticipantNone.
composerParticipantThis delay is not typical, but it is not unusual. The lag time could even be 2-3 quarters.
composerParticipantNo. Please.
composerParticipantI have mixed feelings about Tunesat. Customer service has been great without exception. It’s good to know how and when your music is used. With Tunesat you learn right away when a placement occurs. So, you get a 6-9 month jump on your PRO statement. This can be useful if it helps you determine what types of music to produce and submit.
However, Tunesat misses lots of placements, and almost all of my source cue placements are too soft to be detected. Occasionally detections list the wrong show or episode.
It’s true that detecting a couple of good unreported placements could pay for lots of the Tunesat service. This hasn’t happened for me, but it could.
As you increase the number of monitored tracks, the price per track comes down significantly, making it easier to justify the expense. It’s a cool service and I want to continue, but I’m not sure if I will.composerParticipantWhile I can’t speak to this particular placement, I can say that foreign placements generally do take a long time to show up. I often see foreign royalties on my BMI statement 4-8 quarters after the placement.
composerParticipantMany of us have signed tracks with companies that do blanket deals and/or pay no portion of the sync fee to the composer. Under a deal like this, our only income is PRO royalties. So, some online placements will result in virtually no income for the composer, but some income for the company that gets the placement.
I looked at my last couple of BMI statements and the internet royalties are funny… well, kinda funny.
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