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This is great! Thanks for posting it.

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Thanks to those who responded. I’m kind of surprised at how few people were willing to respond to this though. Do writers/composers feel they need to keep this answer “secret” out of fear that the tv library they write for will become a larger sea of fish? On the other hand, I suppose the argument could be made that the library ratings speak this in an anonymous way.

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Cool DI…i know what you mean. I have heard a few good things about Korg Gadget for iPad – has anyone tried that one?

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Awesome analogy!

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She also sent me a copy too by the way….which I provided to ASCAP. Got am email from them saying all is good and the cue sheets will be processed and paid out on the next statement.

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Ok I have a simple cue sheet success story. A library I am involved with placed a single cue many times on 106 and Park on BET. As of being considerably past due, I reached out to ASCAP to look into the cue sheets. Long story short is that I was not included on them. At the time I wasn’t sure as to what library placed it – so I reached out to BET to find out who produces the show and learned that it is mostly in house production. They put me in touch with someone in music administration who was extremely nice and helpful. She looked up the cue sheets in question and saw I was not included. I sent her over the TuneSat reports….that was key. She went over it with the producers and amended the cue sheets and resubmitted to ASCAP.

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Hey Advice that’s cool. Did you check to see if Reelz is on the census survey for ASCAP? Hopefully it’s not on the sample survey.

I am an ASCAP member and although if I had to start again I may have joined BMI (had I known id be doing more library music) – I do however have to say ASCAP has definitely increased the amount of channels that pay on the census. At least it seems that way. That – I am happy about.

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I don’t exactly feel clear as to what rights you are giving them to your music? For example – I know it says you can be a member of ASCAP or BMI and join Soundreef. But what about the fact that if you have music with Audiosparx and get paid through Radiosparx in store play?

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I spoke to a managerial rep at ASCAP – he was as curious as I am as to if there is a legal requirement to turn them in. He honestly believes there must be writing in a networks license agreement with ASCAP that requires them to turn in cue sheets and within a certain time frame. He said he will be reaching back out to me in the next couple of weeks with what he finds out from their legal department.

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Mark you are right. I mistyped that – meant to say I’m sure there isn’t any federal or state law that mandates turning in cue sheets. But is there a legally binding agreement between any two parties at all to turn them in? Between PRO and network? Or can a network and their production companies simply just decide to never turn them in, pay their blanket license fees and face no consequence. If that’s the case why bother paying people to complete any cue sheets – waste of payroll.

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Desire Inspires – you are so right. Very unclear and that’s why I’m determined to find out more info about this.

Gdomeir – I’ve tried that approach before and certainly will again. Have had various levels if success with it.

But I’m more interested in seeing replies to the question of – Is it a “legal” obligation? Legally required by whom and to whom? Is it a legal part of agreements between PRO’s and networks based on blanket licensing agreements? I know sometimes libraries are effective, sometimes composers are effective in getting production companies to turn them in, etc. But if it is indeed a legal requirement and what is that based on?

I’m sure there is federal or state law that makes it “illegal” not to turn in cue sheets (at least not that I know of), but a contract of sorts forms legal agreements. Are there clauses in pro agreements with networks that their production companies need to contractually turn in cue sheets? I know certain libraries have a clause like this in their blanket agreements. If this is not the case then perhaps it’s never legally necessary to turn in a cue sheet – just a nice favor.

I feel like I’d like to take a break from the “fighting back” against not turning in cue sheets stance for a bit and start gaining some more information and real knowledge. I’m probably going to bring this up to my entertainment attorney whom I use for other things to see what we can find out about the legalities. But I wanted to ask those with more experience what knowledge they have on the legal requirements and what agreement or agreements those legalities could be based on.

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Just had some music on this channel – but I am ASCAP and I’m almost positive that’s sample survey – so unless it shows up in the 6 hours of sample time probably not. However, maybe some BMI or SESAC writers get paid on it?

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Yes Music Loops is the library I was referring to.

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Michael, I don’t think we are thinking the same library – the one I am referring to is not a low price library. But I do think I know the one you are talking about and you’re right – you can have a personal site on that on as well. But great point – if it turns into custom work it could be worthwhile.

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Not that this is exactly the same thing as starting a library – I’m aware of that…..but at least for music you own licensing rights to it’s worth noting as an in between option. There is a great performing royalty free library that allows you to have your own, personal webpage and pays you a higher percentage when you make sales off of it. In that case the infrastructure is built and you are only spending money on marketing. Maybe not exactly what you’re looking for but worth mentioning. I haven’t made tremendous use of my personal webpage on it yet but plan on doing so in the future. You may know which one I’m speaking of….but if you aren’t aware of which library that is definitely take a look at the Music Library Listings. It’s spoken of frequently for good reason….

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