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Congratulations daveydad! Which PRO are you with by the way?

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Thanks Strat 56 for posting that – very interesting to see. I’ve also ended up in an experiment with one library, where the library suddenly introduced a subscription service. I figured I’d let it run for a few months but so far it’s looking very bad as well.

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That seems odd. Must be another way in.

That’s what I thought too! I’ve explained more to them and will see what they say..

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Numerator ended up quoting me something like $20,000 a year, so maybe it’s changed there or I’m asking for the wrong thing. Obviously I’ll have to pass on that.

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Back in the day it was very easy. I’m not sure the routine now but definitely harder.

Ah ok, I’m not too surprised it’s gone that way. I have a feeling I could get a free trial, but I’m not sure they’d give me free access permanently. I’ll report back once I talk to them.

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How did you guys get an account at Numerator? I signed up but they want to talk before going any further.

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I don’t know much about trailer music but if I’d written an album, delivered final files and signed a contract one year ago for a library directly and that library still hadn’t released it, I’d be chasing them up.

Sub-publishers is another matter. I’ve seen that take a year sometimes..

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I don’t hear it either. The snap sound in the percussion and the tempo are similar but that’s pretty much it. In my view this verdict is crazy.

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But how could a writer have dumped everything they have in exclusive agreements into this? That would be against their exclusive agreement.

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Interesting.. so did they just place their entire non-exclusive catalog with the subscription libraries? Or write new material?!

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I’m with Music1234 on this. I am not at all surprised by the figures from those other composers. If anything I’d expect subscription income to be even lower than those numbers, and much much lower than regular sync.

One question though: why did these top writers decide to put their music into this subscription model? Can they get it back?

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How many tracks did you have in how many subscription libraries to make that?

How much did you get per license?

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Advice: You said that one of your libraries put your songs on a subscription site. How is this allowed?! It sounds like you give your music to a library and then it can just go and put it on everything like P5, AJ etc etc and take a cut instead of you putting it there yourself. I’d really appreciate it if you named the library to make certain to avoid them!

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Beatslinger: isn’t it more likely, and easier, for a production music track to be licensed for an unpleasant use than it is for a record label piece of music?

Production music is pre cleared and specifically designed to be easy to license, and the writer has basically no say in its use.

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Glad to hear it! Sounds like PRS is up to speed on these things which is great.

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