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Evver since they “updated” their cue sheet system – I have the same issue from time to time where the cue sheet count is way off
Man that sucks. I’ve had the same garbage before with Competitrack not monitoring a commercial and ASCAP refusing to pay – not allowing TuneSat. Its ridiculous. At least with BMI maybe there’s a chance – ASCAP no chance at all.
I have a good amount of cue sheets from the daily show – but they have taken about a year from airing to start showing up. At least on the plus side they are actually getting done eventually as opposed to not at all….
I believe this to be a very important time in our careers as composers. Scripps has gotten away with this exact scenario – and I do believe that without a legal challenge to overcome, Discovery, and eventually other networks will likely do whatever is in their personal, best financial interest without regard for integrity. This is the time for lawmakers to get involved if we want to save any potential for the future of performance royalties for music on television. Any music creator advocacy group that you can think of – needs to know about this. Hopefully we can make a difference by being heard.
Haven’t seen this yet but yes I’ve heard it’s GREAT. Clive Davis is a good man – met him many times over the years
Tunesat has been really useful for me. It’s knowledge that you wouldn’t have otherwise had. With that said – many of you on here have read my many posts in the past about recovering royalties, TuneSat and the PRO’s. I’m in an interesting situation right now with a library that I will leave unnamed – but one that is well known on this forum.
The library is well known in having editors that work in house for various productions/networks sports coverage. I have a cue that has been used almost every weekend – many hundreds of broadcasts now – on a major network and a census surveyed (ASCAP) sports network over the past five years. It has only been reported on a cue sheet correctly ONE TIME. I reached out to this library three years ago in reference to not reporting it and they claimed it was not their placement. There was only one other possibility and in reaching out to the network – it was determined it WAS this library all along – even though their own employee told me it was not. Funny how the library tried to say I never came to them! lol.
Could this be a large mistake? Sure it’s possible. Could this be something deeper? That’s possible as well. In general, cue sheets unfortunately over the course of time have had the tendency to be misreported on accidentally, misreported on purposefully (to fraudulently enrich someone else’s pockets, sometimes within a particular organization that is involved), not reported fully on (to minimize annual usage in relation to blanket licensing fees to the PRO’s) and sometimes just not reported at all. There’s a plethora of articles on this from Billboard to legal journals and the like. This is always murky water. It’s unfortunate that as many have mentioned, the PRO’s are still hanging on to ancient ways for their own benefit. I do believe soon however, this is going to change.
As for this particular library – I’m giving them a short time to rectify the issue – as they deserve the benefit of the doubt. It they don’t – I have 25 years of allies in the music business at my disposal to make some interesting noise – I’ve done it before to success. Hoping it doesn’t come to that. We all have cue sheets that never turn up – But when it gets to many hundreds of uses of a single cue from the same user that is never being reported or consistently being misreported – it’s time to do something. Our sources of income streams have been slashed dramatically over the years – we all need to try to preserve what is left of them.
Wow I remember when they were starting out – I didn’t know they started a subscription based pitching thing with it. Not my cup of tea either
Hi Alan,
Yep you should be good now. I’ve used Competitrack before to submit ad codes to ASCAP and they should pay on it with no problems. Keep an eye out on competitrack though if they catch multiple versions of the commercial – there could end up being more than one ad code. If it does end up airing a lot – it can add up significantly.
Chris
Chuck Mott speaking truth.
Yeah at this point I think the update is a step backwards other than the appearance. Hoping they address the issues mentioned above. Really like at least seeing the episode totals on the cue sheets.
I’ve had a similar experience as Art – TuneSat picks up about 60-70 percent of my usage. Overall I like it. Been with them for a few years now.
Just took the survey as well. I mentioned how unfair it is that they don’t accept TuneSat data as well as how much the “sample survey” negatively affects composers. Can’t even fathom the idea of a yearly fee – composers have had enough financials stripped in the past few years – now our own PRO is considering jumping on THAT bandwagon?