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  • in reply to: Discovery royalties? #21584
    Mark_Petrie
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    maybe we could all just contribute to a list of rates, because this would be a huge amount of work. And still not entirely accurate – I see strange inconsistencies throughout my statements.

    Here’s a small contribution – (ASCAP)

    CBS promo morning – $8.99 per usage
    CBS promo afternoon – $13.48 per usage
    CBS promo primetime – $17.97 per usage

    NBC promo morning – $8.99 per usage
    NBC promo afternoon – $13.48 per usage
    NBC promo primetime – $14.77 per usage

    ABC BG primetime – $119.82 per minute

    CBS BG afternoon – $89.87 per minute
    CBS BG primetime – $119.82 per minute

    NBC BG morning – $59.94 per minute

    Fox BG afternoon – $83.72 per minute
    Fox BG primetime – $118.67 per minute

    Univision BG primetime – $12.24 per minute

    in reply to: Handful of questions… #21465
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    Yeah you don’t want to be jumping up and down in dynamics, but nice drops, short pauses – these make great edit points. The piece should generally evolve from smallest to biggest. No point in giving someone two minutes of pretty much the same material, when they could just loop a section if they wanted to.

    in reply to: East West Cloud Composer #21435
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    If only you didn’t need dedicated slave computers to run Play libraries!

    in reply to: Handful of questions… #21434
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    Hey Josh, I think your tracks are great.

    One observation – the tracks overall tended to stay at the same level of intensity throughout. Although you don’t want to make drastic changes in mood or style, it’s always good to have some development in a library track so that the finale / last section has a pay off.

    My advice would be to start with the smallest section, develop throughout, add in a breakdown section, then swell / fill into a final big section with a definitive / final sounding ending.

    The ending is arguably the most important part for TV editors.

    in reply to: Royalties and licensing fees…what's the difference? #21380
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    sync – a fee for ‘synching’ a piece of music up with a project, like advertising, TV, movie etc.

    mechanical – you get 9.1 cents every time your piece of music is reproduced mechanically in the US (which used to mean records, CDs, but now also covers digital downloads and ring tones – where you get 24 cents). The interesting thing about that is you are supposed to get paid even if the physically printed ‘units’ (CDs etc) don’t sell.

    FYI a lot of libraries, especially RF ones, grant a mechanical license along with the sync license when a customer pays for the music.

    I honestly don’t know much about that side of things because this is more the domain of the record business, so I did some digging. Here are some interesting articles:

    What is a Mechanical Royalty? Music Publishing Unlocked


    http://www.bmi.com/news/entry/Understanding_Mechanical_Royalties
    https://www.harryfox.com/license_music/what_is_mechanical_license.html

    Music Licensing Secrets Revealed

    That last article is great for covering the basics for anyone new to the business.

    in reply to: Royalties and licensing fees…what's the difference? #21378
    Mark_Petrie
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    If you get a payment from your library, then it’s probably a cut of a license fee or from sales to the public (iTunes etc). I also occasionally get mechanical royalties from a big library, I guess that’s when the library gets paid for something like DVDs or a toy that uses the music.

    in reply to: Cool interview with Danny McCarthy #21371
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    A follow up to my comment about needing to learn programming skills – here’s a great resource from Blake Robinson, who did that Hobbit track I listed above:
    http://blakus.com/category/tutorials

    in reply to: Cool interview with Danny McCarthy #21370
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    Hey Vlad! I’m more than happy to help. Maybe the list needed a refresh anyway.

    For epic orchestral music, it’s not just the quality of the samples, you really need to learn how to make them sound as convincing as possible. Even if a great engineer is mixing your track, they can’t fix mediocre
    programming. I’m never satisfied with my midi, which is why these days I’m doing a lot more live recording.

    I’m always blown away by the talent of some composers – not just their writing ability, but their production and programming chops. Check this guy out:

    Or basically anything by Thomas Bergersen, who I’m sure you’re aware of.

    I’m nowhere near these guys in terms of programming ability, but I can give you some library recommendations.

    Strings
    8Dio’s Adagio series – nice swells, I like the staccato stuff as well.
    LASS 2 or Berlin (I don’t have either, but I might buy one soon)
    Action Strings – don’t shoot me, I sometimes like to layer the basic repeating notes under ostinatos
    Symphobia 2 – swells, fx, fullness
    Lumina – swells, fx, fullness, nice pre-orchestrated patches
    I’ll also boost strings with full sounding synths from Omnisphere

    Brass
    Cinebrass (and the PRO version)
    Symphobia 2

    Choir
    I like Emperium, but I also load a lot of older choir patches, including ones in Omnisphere

    Drums
    I use about 50 different sound effect and drum tracks in my trailer music. It’s a blend of:
    Storm Drum 2 (which barely works on my rig)
    Damage
    lots of small 8Dio libraries
    Oracle
    Old libraries like RMX single hits, True Strike

    I used to have Hollywood Strings and Brass, but because I run everything off one Mac, the PLAY engine just killed my rig. Had to remove them.

    The reason I have multiple libraries listed is that each does something really useful, but lacks something (of course, haha!)

    in reply to: SoundCloud private files #21356
    Mark_Petrie
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    A while back everything I had on SC turned up for free on an illegal Panamanian site.

    I know what you mean! I have 100’s of tracks shared on Russian / Ukrainian / Chinese etc sites, some of it is music I sell on iTunes, but most is library stuff not sold to the public.

    The question is, though, is this such a bad thing? Through my work in trailers, I’m fortunate to be able to say I now make more from iTunes that from royalty free sales (one went up, the other down). Perhaps the stolen music is acting like an advertising campaign – taking its ‘fee’ but still working fairly cost effectively.

    in reply to: SoundCloud private files #21351
    Mark_Petrie
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    Anyone who gets that private link can stream the track.

    File theft / unauthorized use is a well debated topic here. Basically two sides to the argument – should I protect my music and demos online by taking such steps as watermarking streaming demos, and not uploading to SoundCloud or YouTube, or just not worry about?

    If you’re working on a project that needs secrecy, like a film or commercial, then obviously the files need to be locked down and not available to the public. You might want to keep music designed for high end clients under wraps too (i.e. trailers) until it’s used.

    But once the project is done, or the music out in the public, I fall into the side that thinks there’s not much to worry about.

    What do you have to lose by someone ‘stealing’ your music?

    If someone’s going to use your music illegally, or download it for listening purposes without paying for it, they weren’t going to pay for it in the first place.

    More to the point – any legitimate business that would actually be able to afford a license fee is not going to try and use music for free (they would putting them and their clients at risk).

    in reply to: 80% off for East West Hollywood Strings! ! ! WOW #21350
    Mark_Petrie
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    I think HS and HB sound amazing, but the Play engine just destroys my mac and I actually deleted the diamond bundle off my system. Before that, I even tried using 6Gb/s SSDs for each library and it didn’t help much – the main issue is the insane load on the CPU. They should bite the bullet and convert all Play instruments to Kontakt – I think they’d make a ton of money.

    I just don’t understand what they’re doing over at EW! Even the drum libraries are CPU hogs. I love SD2 (haven’t even bothered to get SD3) and still use it a lot, but the hassles make it almost unusable… even for short percussive samples in a library that came out in 2007.

    in reply to: PAYPAL SCAM WARNING #21312
    Mark_Petrie
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    I’m usually pretty savvy when it comes to the phishing emails (which I get pretty much daily), but I got totally done last year when I got a call from an automated voice saying they were from my credit card company (a fairly small one), asking me to choose a pin number and then enter my zip… D’OH!

    Figured it all out at the end when the call ended with a sinister ‘sorry, your request could not be completed at this time.. goodBYEE!’. I immediately called to cancel / re-issue my card.

    in reply to: BMI Statements #20958
    Mark_Petrie
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    On my ASCAP publishing statement today, I made a whopping $0.01 from Apple iRadio. Hey, it’s a start, right?!

    in reply to: Is Cable TV going away? #20844
    Mark_Petrie
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    It’s difficult for me to gauge the difference “per viewer” between the Netflix/Hulu views and the broadcast views.

    I’ve heard from someone at a PRO that it’s difficult for even them to get hard numbers on Netflix viewership.

    in reply to: Is Cable TV going away? #20842
    Mark_Petrie
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    It’s really interesting to see how things are evolving and hopefully PROS can keep pace with the changes.

    You can find articles about how official ratings are dropping but actual viewership is up (Nielsen doesn’t include delayed DVR views in the official ratings). A lot of younger viewers consume two or even three sources of content at once, like watching TV while they surf the web with Pandora playing in the background.

    I think what we’ll see is that the cream will always rise to the top – ratings for the best cable shows rival any network these days (Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead, Breaking Bad). Maybe the ‘filler’ stuff on channels that no one would specifically choose to pay for will end up on Netflix, or just die out.

    Have you guys been seeing an increase in the web / PPV section of your PRO statement? I’ve started to see a bit more from the Netflix, Hulu, YouTube etc pages. Not huge money but it seems to be on the rise.

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