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Another thought I just had in order to give both main and instro mixes the same endings is to take the ending of the intro and, at a most musical moment, drop that into the main mix to replace the original main mix ending. That way they both have the same endings.
Part of the problem is that the original 2008 main mix only had a fade out (doh!!) So it’s current endings is already constructed from the introduction. I’m going to give this idea a go but impose a time deadline on myself to not waste any more time.
Cheers
JDJDParticipantApologies Michael Nicholas, I used your surname as your first name!
JdJDParticipantHi Michael Nicholas and LA writer thanks for your responses.
You are right Nicholas, if I don’t submit to the new library then, as you say, I am effectively treating the first library as exclusive.
Who knows how each library will do, not good to have all my eggs in one basket. I think part of my procrastination is because the first library has got me some really good placements making it hard to imagine any other library doing better or as well for me with the same material in the same range of TV genres.
I think I have put myself in this situation by overlooking the overlap of tv genres supplied by both libraries’. This I think is made worse by the fact that there seem to be so few NE libraries that aren’t RF to choose from.
I can learn from this in the future and do more research before submitting to any new libraries.
Also, as I become more prolific and my catalog increases in size and range, I may feel happier to submit to exclusives.On the positive side, the new library seems very responsive and fast in screening and accepting tracks, the first one can take up to 3 months to approve a track and only allow a maximum of 3 tracks
awaiting review, but once signed they are very active and professional in their pitch activity.
Thanks so much for your comments.
JDJDParticipantThanks everyone for your helpful comments, I will stay away from splice as it sounds like a potential legal minefield.
JDJDParticipantHi Tbone,
Thanks for your responses., much appreciated.
. I think the default selection with PRS is to select ASCAP as the US PRO, I don’t remember being asked to select a US PRO when registering tracks in recent years (maybe when I first joined prs years ago)
When I asked the US library for advice on the subject they said I can select either, if changing from ascap to bmi then I would just have to let them know so they can register my tracks with BMI..
I am tempted to change to BMI if they pay better for source music with vocals placements but at the same time, if there is not much difference then I think it best to leave things as they are (not try to fix what seems to be working).
The issue seems to be an ongoing and long lasting discussion with no clear distinction or favourite.
I am in the middle of registering a new track with PRS and am eager to get the track out in the marketplace (and not bug the library by delaying). Might give it another day to think about it but probably no major loss either way.
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JDJDParticipantHi Folks
Any thoughts on my question anyone?
I guess the question has been asked a lot but I am unsure how to find previous posts on this subject if that is the case.
Thank you
JDJDParticipantWow! Thank you everyone for your meaningful responses! So many great thoughts and suggestions.
The more I think about the issue I realise that this dynamic happens in many other arenas. One example that I have experienced many times is in the world of live work that I have done for years. Through years of dealing with entertainment agencies I eventually learned to identify a good one and sift out the terrible or dishonest ones. After building trust and loyalty with some high end agents (and doing professional jobs consistently) I was able to get with some great agents and get good paying gigs in some prestigious venues (corporate functions/parties etc)
Getting calls or emails from other musicians I know asking how I get that kind of gig and who are the best agents to approach I feel similar to what I described regarding music licensing. Firstly what the questioner is actually asking for is my hard won contacts in order to offer them a direct competitor and (cheaper) alternative to me! What I do find annoying is the lack of understanding of what I am being asked and again the same attitude of ‘anything you can do I can do better’ coupled with an acquisitively entitled attitude.
I view my contacts as hard won assets, when I am asked to just casually give them away it devalues what has taken me decades to achieve.
In the end I guess it is a response of envy and competitiveness not specific to my work but part of human nature.
As mentioned by Paul Biondi, this kind of thing is actually a compliment but at the same time I have experienced a feeling of having been taken advantage of by people I have worked with in both gigging and writing collabs who find devious ways to get valuable information out of me through a friendly (self serving) approach.
The idea of actually turning things around and teaching these skills and approaches is something that has never occurred to me,( thank you Ed Hartman and others for the idea) I have watched many YouTube videos on the subject, don’t think it’s something I want to do but it’s a fantastic idea with a really positive attitude to it. At the moment I don’t feel qualified to teach on the subject but I can see the benefits to doing so.
There have been so many really brilliant ideas and responses here, I am really grateful and glad I asked for all your thoughts. It is good to know that it is not just me that goes through this kind of situation.
Sincere thanks
JDJDParticipantThanks Art,
It’s quite comforting to know that I am not alone in how I feel. Many who come at me with this type of question are not even dedicated to composing and don’t have any kind of home studio set up but have written a few songs or instros and seem to have the attitude that if just one track gets picked up then they will be rolling in cash! Of course one important placement can be momentous but as we all know it is more a question of a long term mindset and years of hard work and self improvement.
I think part of my issue is that I feel a bit insulted by the assumptions at play, I know that is MY problem!JDParticipantI have emailed Kryptic Samples a couple of times to get clarification on their licence terms but have not heard anything back. I won’t be buying their sample pack as I don’t want the risk of using samples that I don’t have clear licence terms for. Shame as I am working on a track where they would be useful. Never mind!
JDJDParticipantHi Art,
Thanks for your response, the company selling the pack is producer loops but the producers of the pack are called Kryptic Samples.
I will follow your suggestion and contact them directly.
Cheers, JDJDParticipantI think Music Expressions is related to Crucial Music
JDParticipantThanks Art,
Should have done a Google search first before posting the question but thanks for your thoughts.
JDJDParticipantThanks Advice for your reply.
The owner did mention there would follow a schedule A so I guess that will be after the tracks have been retitled,
I was just unclear whether the schedule A would be only for any exclusive tracks I submit in the future.
If you have seen similar agreements then it sounds fine to me. I guess every library has a different working method.
Cheers. JDJDParticipantThanks Advice for your thoughts., they more or less tally with mine, good to know I am on the right track. As the music and lyrics are completely written (have performed the song multiple times) it is unlikely to need more than the tracking of the instrument(s) mentioned so a writer split shouldn’t be needed in this case.
Much appreciated!
JDJanuary 1, 2020 at 6:22 am in reply to: Ok to divulge current NE library to possible new EX one? #33925JDParticipantThanks Advice and other responders,
I have now answered with full disclosure tha name of the current NE library, I appreciate all your thoughts and am comfortable with my decision, couldn’t see any point withholding the info.
Just now awaiting a reply from the library.
All the best. JD -
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