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  • #8786
    MichaelL
    Participant

    I’m glad it’s working for you

    I don’t expect an overnight change. But, it’s sometimes better to plan for change rather than having to respond to it after the fact. Obviously, libraries like SK and JP are looking ahead.

    Maybe there’ll be a work around.

    All the best,

    _Michael

    #8787
    TheOne
    Guest

    MichaelL,

    What do you think about re-titles in use of an exclusive library  like Extreme Music, where they have done re-titles with A&E for some or all of their catalog in order to make a deal with them, they split the publisher share 50/50 on those re-titles. 50 to Extreme and 50 to A&E, then what happens? the composer get paid and?

    So it will be a problem not only for non-exclusive libraries but also for some huge exclusive libraries who is using re-titles in order to make sub-publishing deals with their existing catalog.

    You think this can be a reason for PROs to not adopt fingerprinting or invent a new technology that can distinguish between multiple publishers for the same piece of music? like watermarking etc…

    #8788
    MichaelL
    Participant

    @TheOne…too much speculation. I hope they figure out a work around for everyone’s sake. I’m playing it cautious right now. But, if they figure out a way to make it work, I’ve got a few thousand tracks that I’ll happily re-title.   Otherwise, I’ve got a few thousand tracks that I’m going to produce 5 different ways. 😉

     

     

    #8789
    music_pro
    Participant

    Yes, hope so…just too many have done re-titles, its not so easy to dump it.

    Thanks!

    #8790
    More Advice
    Participant

    Micaell…Laughing Out Loud!!

     

    Cheers guys…off to Led Zeppelin 2! at House of Blues tonight…I hope it’s cool.

    #8792
    MichaelL
    Participant

    @David. Ramble On…enjoy!

    #8793
    Art Munson
    Keymaster

    just too many have done re-titles, its not so easy to dump it.

    I’ve been saying this for years. A lot of folks have been saying “the sky is falling” but I just don’t buy it. That genie is out of the bottle and will be impossible to put back.

    #8794
    BIGG ROME
    Guest

    Tunesat is just not worth it in my opinion anymore. I do better just waiting for the bmi sheet. It seems to pick up alot more placements than Tunesat ever does.

    Tunesat charges all that money just so you can know about a placement on a wack channel.

     

    iS ANYBODY GONNA TRULY BE FOR THE COMPOSER?

    #8795
    BIGG ROME
    Guest

    OH YEA,

    Dont forget the infomercials that always get picked up on Tunesat that have the wrong program name to them. Playing all your songs and you can even get the correct informmerical show. They never payout either.

     

    #8796
    axiomdreams
    Participant

    Too bad for non-BMI, non-ASCAP members. We don’t get the infos you guys get so TuneSat is my only bet atm.

    Even when royalties come in, there are no infos on what stations, how many plays, which tracks were used etc.

     

    It really sucks to have to chase up for these infos all the time =(

     

    “iS ANYBODY GONNA TRULY BE FOR THE COMPOSER?”

    Not that I know of… yet.

    #8797
    Art Munson
    Keymaster

    Tunesat is just not worth it in my opinion anymore.

    It’s worth it for me as I have collected money that I would have otherwise missed. Recently Tunesat has been detecting a commercial that’s run well over 2000 times. I would not have known that and been able to file the necessary documentation with BMI.

    #8798
    More Advice
    Participant

    @Axiomdreams…Just don’t get concerned about the noise on these discussion boards. Just write great tracks and feed them to the folks that turn them into money. I don’t have a tunesat account and I will never get one. It will probably just create anxiety and disappointment if I see info that my tracks are used more often than reported.  Who has time to litigate anyway? It’s an imperfect system and always will be.  Composers, just NEVER give up your rights to your intellectual property. Never ever sign a deal that says…”this is now only ours (the publisher) in perpetuity”…unless of course you are paid a “work for hire” or an advance for the cue.

     

    #8820
    MichaelL
    Participant

    just too many have done re-titles, its not so easy to dump it.

    “I’ve been saying this for years. A lot of folks have been saying “the sky is falling” but I just don’t buy it. That genie is out of the bottle and will be impossible to put back.”

     

    From a strictly legal point of view, I don’t think that it would be hard at all to dump re-titling.

    1) The re-title contracts don’t really obligate the library to the composer, and

    2) The PRO’s governing documents allow them to not pay composers and publishers for any reason.

    In other words, it’s not a matter of putting the genie back in the bottle. Legally, they can simply turn the faucet off, and say “from this moment forward, we do not pay for re-titled tracks.”  That is kind of the nuclear option instead of working things out.

    I don’t think that this is analogous to Wall Street, where PROs would consider retitling to big to fail.

    I do think that there’s enough of a likelihood that retitling will either fade, or be limited in some way, that I won’t do it until the situation resolves.

    The upside to that approach is that my catalog isn’t in jeopardy. The downside is that I might, emphasis on might, be missing some near term opportunities. If the situation resolves in favor of retitling, then great, I’ll have a big catalog, ready to roll. If retitling goes away, then, I will have preserved the long term value of my catalog.

    I guess that’s the product of being a lawyer…to err on the side of caution.

    I hope it all works out in everyone’s favor.

    Michael

     

     

     

    #8821
    BIGG ROME
    Guest

    How do collect money from an infomercial? Cause I am constantly seeing them on there. The show name does not ever match the infomercial. So you don’t know who did it.

     

    I would not complain if this stuff wasn’t true. I want it to work, but it doesn’t so I am letting others know my story.

     

    All i see are the B.S channels constantly playing songs 25 times  + and NO MONEY to show

    #8822
    BIGG ROME
    Guest

    David, you are right in your assessment. It does create anxiety and disappointment

     

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